- Should STW charge for adds?
It would obviously not be popular with some, but in much the same way as ebay has a listing fee it could provide some, no doubt much needed, income for STW towers.
I’m not thinking a lot, maybe 50p per add, with perhaps wanted adds staying free so people still get to sell their kit if someone else needs it?
I could see the wanted adds degenerating in to people trying to offload their vaguely relevant stuff, but I’m sure that would be self policing by the more vocal classifieds users.
What do you think, would you be willing to cough up? I would, especially if it was a nominal amount like 50p, I think it would stop a lot of the overly optimistic adds, & make finding stuff you need at sensible prices easier.
Perhaps the adds could have a time limit?
I don’t know if STW is THE secondhand market now, but since the demise of the old forum, and the ability to ‘sort by topic’ rather than by last post, I find it very hard to use & the constant ‘bumping’ means a new add only stays on the front page for a few hours.
Your thoughts?Posted 9 years agoTracker1972Member
No, if they start to charge it will become less of a place for “mates” to trade gear and everything will just become at least 50p more expensive, and people will not bother offering low value stuff on the basis that someone else might want it/be interested.Posted 9 years ago
I also suspect that it might not be worth the faff for STW for the income.tomdebruinSubscriber
There’s a lot of discussion going on at the office regarding how to handle the classifieds – particularly the bumping issue. So far nothing manageable has really popped up. As soon as we’re able to do the sort by post time it will be implemented, which should solve the issue. But don’t hold your breath for it…
Any easy way round it is to RSS feed the classifieds by topic (Classifieds Topic RSS Feed)Posted 9 years ago
I don’t think the admin would be that tough, just use paypal to get through to the ‘add new’ page, the time limit would be tougher, but I suppose there must be a way of creating a filter that automatically deletes posts after a set time. I also do think a time limit wouldn’t be necessary if new adds went to the top of the page, & subsequent bumping of old adds didn’t put them back to the top, it would also mean people would make much more use of the search facility.
I’d love to know how much the ‘buy us a pint’ generates, but I bet its not enough to keep the forum free. By the looks of the amount of traffic in the classifieds, people are using STW instead of ebay, not a bad thing but I don’t see why STW shouldn’t benefit from it. I also understand that particularly cheap goods may not be worth selling, but if wanted adds were free, then there is no reason you couldn’t sell anything provided someone has asked for it.
I’m sure its all doable, I just don’t know if its worth doing.Posted 9 years ago
Perhaps Mark will enlighten us by gracing us with his presence on this thread, if he sees it.
dont think so either,
not because i’m a skinflint,
how would wtd ads work, would they have to pay if a transaction goes through???
i’ve posted up free stuff before, i would be less likely to see if anyone wanted my junk before i threw it out.
would that mean that traders would be allowed in, as that would only be fair then????
too many minefields, even on the old site classifieds disappeared off the front page pretty quickly,Posted 9 years ago
Jenga – Member
If there’s going to be a charge for the adds, will there be a charge for the subtracts as well?
your right though should only the seller pay, what about the buyer that has used the site, should they pay a fee for using the classifiedsPosted 9 years ago
where does it all stop???nicko74Member
tom, if you’re looking at this thread, can you tell us whether the search function will be changed at all? It might just be me, but it doesn’t seem to be quite as good at finding what I’m looking for (eg ‘Hope Pro II’) as on the old forum.Posted 9 years ago
And I know, looking a gift horse in the mouth and all that, so feel free to say it’s fine and won’t be changed 🙂iamsporticusMember
Ive bought and sold a few bits and bobs over the years which for me is how the classifieds works
Buying and selling from mates – everyones happy
Its pretty obvious that some people run it as a business though
In which case it only seems fair they pay their way as they must be saving shedloads on ebay and paypal fees
Maybe youre allowed a handful of free ads then are asked to make a donation for any extras?Posted 9 years agosimonfbarnesMember
it will become less of a place for “mates” to trade gear
all my mates consider STW to be ar*e*ole paradise and never visit it 🙁
and everything will just become at least 50p more expensive
why MORE than 50p extra ?
and people will not bother offering low value stuff
could have things under a tenner still free ?Posted 9 years agopslingSubscriber
The volume of traffic generated through the ads being free probably does have a benefit for STW. Selling advertising space on the site is enhanced by the number of ‘hits’ the site receives; the busier the classifieds are, the more ‘hits’ are recorded, the better to gain revenue through commercial advertising.Posted 9 years ago
I use it quite a lot, but would like to think i contribute to other areas of the forum enough to be a true member of our community. What kind of riles me is people who register and the first thing they do is put a FS ad up,(three like that on the FS front page now, and one very notorious Evil-owning member as proof).Posted 9 years agoBlazin-saddlesMember
Another (non bike) forum I visit started charging for their classified ads, it went from a place you could get good deals and do people favours to a ghost town in under a month, no one uses it now ’cause it’s too much hassle. keep it free I say, donations work just fine.Posted 9 years agosootyandjimMember
Its not a bad idea.
It might stop people constantly reposting the same ads day after day pushing the ads by less impatient people down the list.
Of course the tight ar$es wouldn’t like it (and there are plenty of them on this site) and would probably go elsewhere, such as Bike Tragic.Posted 9 years agoiamtheresurrectionSubscriber
I’m sure there was a thread disussion the donations system. If I remember correctly, somebody from the mag said that donations made in total, since it was introduced, was less than £50!
I once gave a tenner after selling a grand worth of broken up bike (smugly pats himself on the back), which I thought was more than fair. eBay would have been a LOT more than that…Posted 9 years ago
Junkyard, I was shot down a long time ago for suggesting a two tear forum, you don’t want to go there 😉
resurrection, £50 probably wouldn’t buy them all a pint & kebab each, I think they deserve better.
I really can’t believe that 50p per add would stop someone advertising something, it may stop some of the more optimistic posts though. Hora does have a point, paypal ain’t the best, & that may put off more people.
Come on STW, give us your perspective.Posted 9 years agomushroomsMember
since the demise of the old forum, and the ability to ‘sort by topic’ rather than by last post, I find it very hard to use & the constant ‘bumping’ means a new add only stays on the front page for a few hours.
I find this sooooooooooo annoying as well in all the forums, it’s a mess!!
Can you please put it back the way it was Admins???Posted 9 years agoBushwackedSubscriber
Another site I post on only lets you buy and sell stuff if you have paid a tenner to become a “sitesupporter” for a year. You can still browse the classifieds but you just can’t post anything.
It is done to show that the seller isn’t buggering around and that the buyer is more than likely genuine. Reduces the number of people just jumping on the site to sell or buy stuff to make a profit and keeps the second hand trade more between the biking community.
Most people pay their money not only to buy and sell but also to support the site and help with its up keep and you get a shiney “SiteSupporter” badge on your profile to show you’re a paid up supporter of the forum (but to post on the general forum you don’t have to pay).Posted 9 years ago
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