Thanks, I’m doing it right now. I wrote pretty much everything down in the meeting, I’m going over it again.

I’ll draft up a letter tonight and post it first thing tomorrow.

Cheers

zedsdead. GMB will take just about anyone

My e mail – edited

Zed
Really sorry to hear what happened but as the others have said on here don’t let them get away with it. Find out if you’re case is a strong one and if it is, then pursue it. I got made redundant years back by a company that ignored most of the correct procedures and acted unfairly. I was so sick of everything I almost didn’t pursue matters, especially as other things were on my mind like job hunting. I did, and won close to £10k for unfair dismissal when they folded just before the industrial tribunal was due to take place. I think the max you can win is now £52k.
Good luck.

just sent you an email TJ, thanks.

Thanks for all the help so far, I honestly don’t know what I would do without it all.

And I’ve just realised I haven’t eaten anything yet today…..

Zed,

I really hope you sort something out. I was shocked, by your post this morning. The IT department sounds to be completely inept and you have been unfairly and unprofessionally treated. I’m sure you will get good legal advice and a satisfactory outcome.

Keep your head up, chap.

Just been in touch with my insurance co. and I have legal cover, so I’ve started the ball rolling with that.

That’s a good start, in fact the insurance could potentially fund you all the way though the process, although they will need to be satisfied that your claim has decent prospects of success.

Gather together as much info as you can and get an appointment with a solicitor. The insurance co will probably have a “panel” solicitor that they will recommend, but you’re also free to choose your own if your claim goes to the Employment Tribunal.

Unbelievable.

Hope the legal process goes smoothly for you. Keep us updated.

Sorry to hear about your news, but a couple of points.

Firstly my wife has “made redundant” a few years ago. We used the legal aid through the house insurance, it takes a long time to resolve the insurance doesn’t seem as bothered as you are BUT if they take the case on they expect to win, which we did – procedures not followed and the justification for the redundancy. She came out with compensation and got a job within a few months, so they compensation wasn’t touched. It is a stressful time but try and keep positive.

A second point, although as your company seem like total dicks they probably won’t. Can’t they get the IT Specialist to build a fresh pc, go to Mleh and check the logs produced? These should then tie up with the ones they already have for you. If you are dealing with none IT literate imbeciles try and keep it simple.

Good Luck

Hi Zed

Really sorry to hear the way this has panned out.

I’m not a lawyer, but MrsJulianA is an HR Manager and she makes the following points:

If a letter is sent recorded delivery the intended recipient can refuse the letter and it is then ‘not delivered’. A tribunal will assume that a letter posted by ordinary mail to an address which is reasonably believed to be the last known address of the intended recipient will be delivered two days later.

The basic award for Unfair Dismissal is £10,500 and the Compensatory Award for Unfair Dismissal is now up to £66,200 depending on age, how hard you have tried to find another job and factors like that.

She also suggests that you get legal advice on this, but I think you have that base covered already.

Good luck and let us know the outcome of this and of your interview!

Unbelieveable..Zed i feel for you at this time. Got to agree with the others here about keeping your head etc..

good luck with it all, and thats a good point what JulianA said re: post..I would be tempted to send them the letter, take it to them personally and fax it to them aswell..just to be sure!

Get a lawyer and you should be treated ok..i hope..

best.

Don’t really have much to add, rather than my sympathies. A company operating with that level of incompetence can’t be much fun to work for. Just a thought, are they actually making redundancies at the moment, or on shaky financial ground? Evidence of this might add weight to your case.

Good luck! Things can only get better from this point.

Interesting…

Any help? Maybe not… but it might make you smile! Good luck fella.

So, how did it go today? Well I hope

Are they basing their dismissal on you surfing “sick” sites or for surfing “unauthorised” sites? If it’s the latter then surfing mleh in work time on a work machine may in itself be enough grounds for dismissal. Sorry to point this out I dont want to sound unsympathetic 😐

sick.

Sorry I haven’t updated today – been out since 9 this morning running around everywhere!

Update is that CAB say I have a very strong case. I shouldn’t really say too much just now as I still have a lot of leg work to do but I’m keeping my fingers crossed.

I must at this point give huge thanks to everyone who has posted here, I honestly wouldn’t have a clue what to do without any of you. I sincerely mean that.

I’ll keep you posted.

Not sure if you need it now with your insurance, but i’d be willing to help you out with a ‘fighting fund’ donation.

Good luck fella. Sounds pretty crap so far. Just make sure you look after yourself and everything else will be easier (maybe not easy, but easier) if you are ok.
Good luck with prospective new job.

I’ve been reading and following this thread but not commenting as I don’t feel I have any suitable advice to add. However, I was stunned to hear you’ve now been fired and want to wish you the best of luck getting this sorted and finding a new employer. Good luck!

Good to hear you’re making positive progress, one way or another.
Perhaps a good idea to keep any updates on here low-key, incase as mentioned earlier, they’re reading this thread/website?

Why do the quote tabs only appear sometimes? anyway:

“”Are they basing their dismissal on you surfing “sick” sites or for surfing “unauthorised” sites? If it’s the latter then surfing mleh in work time on a work machine may in itself be enough grounds for dismissal. Sorry to point this out I dont want to sound unsympathetic””

i’d of thought that some verbal – written warnings would be common practice if it were grounds for dismissal.

wishing you the best of luck Zed – this is an awful state of affairs i hope you come out the other side ok.

Zed, I was pointed to this my Mrs Rickmeister, just caught up. I really hope it goes well for you, there are a lot of folk that are way more up to date than it seems your IT dept is, but now its gone legal there may be something in what you say….

“Update is that CAB say I have a very strong case. I shouldn’t really say too much just now as I still have a lot of leg work to do but I’m keeping my fingers crossed”.

It may not help replaying a detailed account on here now… This site is open for all and may be used against your case especially if they have a list of sites you visit.

Please, please keep us informed of the outcome though.

I am sure it will go well for you…. Compo, a clean track record and importantly a new job has to be the best result.

Unbelievable….

Oh, I reckon your being very professional not to name the company involved…. last thing needed is yet another sh*tstorm on here right now…

Nothing to add, except my best wishes. You have been treated appalingly and I hope everything works out.

Zed, anything new to report?

I have been in contact with Zedsdead – I hope he won’t mind me saying that after consultation with professionals things are not looking so black.

Just like to say that I think it,s superb the way people have helped out with advice n such. Sometimes the bitchiness n shit on here can seem over the top but when someone genuinely needs help, them that can have stepped up to the mark.
Welldone.

Does that mean his (ex) company completely stuffed up in their opinions and he’s due a big payout, or can’t you comment?

wow! just caught up on this thread, amazed at the incompetence and now wondering which company as I have worked for a couple of engineering companies with offices in Glasgow, understandable that it hasn’t been named though. Best of luck sticking it to them though.

Good work TJ…

All I did was point him in the right directions Rick. He has got good advice from professionals and if everyone keeps their fingers crossed he should be OK. It would be wrong for me to say more publicly

Fingers crossed, and toes too to be on the safe side.
Good luck fella!

I clicked on the link a while back, assuming I might learn something about a fellow STW’ers pc problems and how to solve the mysteries of pc’s . How wrong I was, and became more stunned by each post.
Zedsdead – I’d just like to send belated best wishes for the awful events overtaken you.

As someone who also surfs during work dinnertimes, today I’ve quickly checked out mlehworld. Can someone explain to me in simple terms how what seems to be an innocent website has landed our friend in such poo?
I’m not sure i totally understand, and because of the nature of my workplace, don’t want to go where ‘ I shouldn’t’ even if innocently…..
cheers
Q

Someone will correct me if I have the praecis wrong, but I believe that a mlehworlder has an avatar that’s hosted on a website that also hosts NSFW images. WHen you load the mlehworld page with his avatar on it (among other hotlinked images) the browser goes off to retrieve that image from the naughty host site.

Some dumbass IT bods think that having images delivered from a live link on a benign site is tantamount to visiting the image hoster itself and deliberately downloading grot. The stupidity is compounded by managements deliberate refusal to listen to alternative viewpoint or give a fair right to reply.

Christowkid – Member

Can someone explain to me in simple terms how what seems to be an innocent website has landed our friend in such poo?

Basically, as I understand it, browsers will request images from other sites which have been linked to from the site you are browsing. You have no control over where those images come from and therefore what a log of your browsing will show is a bit of a lottery.

I hope I’ve got this right.

And all the best to you, Zed. Keep us posted!

Julian

Stoner is correct.

Sorry, Stoner beat me to it.

Yep, thanks guys, think I’ve got that.
Q

Stoner has it, apart from that I suspect the IT bods don’t actually know how the internet works at all, so don’t realise the site links are just retrieving a hotlinked image. Quite incredible really that you can get such a job with that level of ignorance.

any more developments from Zedsdead?

Zed is laying low until things are sorted out.