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  • Scotland Indyref 2
  • Premier Icon scotroutes
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    If all that’s needed to stop IndyRef 2 is a refusal by the UK PM, why campaign against it at all?

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    Suggesting the BBC Scotland (or the media in general) is in the pocket of Holyrood is certainly a unique take.

    Not really, plenty of people seem to think the SNP get an easy ride on devolved issues as many of the quangos, third sector and pressure groups are dependent on largesse from Holyrood.

    Most recent example is the SEPA hack, despite the (minimal) headlines Scottish Gov has offered no help, banned work arounds and essentially left them to flounder. I was told a week ago Covid policy means letters are piling up unopened at the offices, no email system, no calls getting answered. Permits are automatically granted after a time limit so anything goes at the moment if you put your paperwork in.

    If it happened in England or Wales there would be uproar, I can visualise George Monbiot raging away.

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    Galloway is an absolute throbber.

    An indefatigable one at that

    At least he’s one of “the people of Scotland” not one of those whining ex pats

    Premier Icon hels
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    On what do you base the assertion that SG has offered SEPA no help?

    Premier Icon igm
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    those whining ex pats

    You called? 🧐😉

    Premier Icon piemonster
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    On what do you base the assertion that SG has offered SEPA no help?

    Bump, as I’m curious too.

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    On what do you base the assertion that SG has offered SEPA no help?

    The discussions a person I know well has had with them regarding consents for numerous activities. He’d gone to the offices and seen the pile of mail. Email addresses aren’t working and they aren’t allowed to use non sepa email so no-ones emails are getting read. Switchboard not working (uses the outlook addresses) so he had to contact a specialist via someone who had his number from a previous project. Officer can’t give him anything in writing. Default is to submit in writing (joins the pile) and it’s automatically accepted after a standard period. He was told by the officer that SG has said SEPA need to fix this themselves. I believe they have prioritised the flood team which now has some capability. Hack happened before Christmas it’s now mid April. Volume of data lost/ inaccessible still being downplayed only news getting out are standard press releases and nobody is asking awkward questions Covid is providing a useful cover

    Discussion was a little over a week ago so things may have progressed but no relevant updates found in my Google search

    Relevant questions are, how much money have SG given SEPA for disaster recovery since the hack, what resources have been provided by SG and the spend to date, how many other SG agencies have out of date SAP systems (what I understand to be the route in),

    If I’m wrong then I’m a random on the internet who is wrong, if I’m even close to being right Scotland has a massive environmental protection issue which is 4 months old and counting and nobody is asking SG what they are doing about it. I hope I’m wrong.

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    I see that Johnson is once again showing that hes the best campaigner the SNP have

    the timing of this seems daft even by his standards

    how long will the case take to go to get a judgement, before or after election?

    actually the more I think about it, this is EXACTLY the reaction the SNP hoped the government would take

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    this is EXACTLY the reaction the SNP hoped the government would take

    Probably why it was drafted in a way that would trigger this referral to the Supreme Court. Note it’s a referral to the senior court of the land to determine whether it’s legal or not. I seem to recall that works both ways as the conservative UK government has found out recently.

    As usual it’s the Scexit grievance politics to the fore rather than the merits of the issue.

    Premier Icon dovebiker
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    As usual it’s the Scexit grievance politics to the fore rather than the merits of the issue.

    Because apart from an anti-referendum stance the Tories are offering what? The opportunity to ‘share’ the benefits of Westminster corruption and lies?

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    As usual it’s the Scexit grievance politics to the fore rather than the merits of the issue

    While the children’s rights issues gets all the coverage, I studied its more about reversing the Westminster power grab in the internal market bill, why on earth the Tories think that isn’t going to boost the indy movement is beyond me.

    Premier Icon greyspoke
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    The UK government has a history of challenging Welsh legislation as well, it often loses but that hasn’t stopped it.

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    The UK government has a history of challenging Welsh legislation as well, it often loses but that hasn’t stopped it.

    Looks like a functioning system then with checks and balances

    Premier Icon poly
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    Looks like a functioning system then with checks and balances

    Or a waste of taxpayers money with both governments paying counsel to argue it in the courts (especially since the UK has already ratified both charters – as I understand it this would just make it a matter of Scots law rather than Scots having to go to the English courts?). Neither bill was rushed through – so you’d kind of assume that the UK gov would have highlighted a concern (perhaps they did and it just didn’t attract media attention), you’d certainly have thought that if a concern was known the “unionist” parties would have been opposing it at Holyrood rather than nodding it through…

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    And didn’t the Scottish Tories already vote it they anyway?

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    And didn’t the Scottish Tories already vote it they anyway?

    Which is why it’s likely to be a technical issue only spotted by the UK constitutional lawyers after it’s reviewed before enactment.

    But don’t let that stop the Scexit grievance bus

    Premier Icon gordimhor
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    Looks like a functioning system then with checks and balances

    You could say that but you could also say it’s the power hungry UK govt diminishing the role of the devolved administrations. It’s not just the EU they want to “take back control” from you know.

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