- Scammer on Facebook.
- Oscillate WildlyMember
lets face it – we all know (id love to be told different but don’t think for 1 minute I will) that paypal will not refund money willy nilly, in such a short period of time, and with no contact to you who seemingly were paid the money.
so it kinda rules out that scenario almost instantly
the 3rd so called proper buyer, hasn’t come kicking off at you, other then ‘wheres my bike’ if it were me/you/any one on here, there would be rage, accusations flown and generally not letting it lie
once he realised you weren’t a pushover/easy target he’s been left no choice but to move on, and hence why its for sale again elsewhere
a very slick scam indeed
however if it turns out paypal have refunded the guy I take it all back, but I think we all know deep down that’s not the casePosted 1 year ago
a very slick scam indeed
Is it? To buy a bike on the off chance he might be able to get the money back as well? Otherwise just be left with the hassle of a bike to sell on! Doesn’t sound like the cleverest scam. Especially as, if anyone did refund the money, they’d have an address which they’d give to the police in an attempt to recover the bike.
Weird one. I did google in case this was a common occurrence like most scams but couldn’t find anything!Posted 1 year ago
The slick bit of the scam was how all the parts fitted together without raising suspicion. If you’d seen the various conversations via messenger that went back and forth you’d see what I mean. As for having someone’s address, I imagine the ‘buyer’ would just vanish after getting the money and the scammer would play dumb.Posted 1 year agoandytherocketeerSubscriber
Buy it back (it’ll go for half what you sold it for), then resell it thru decent channels again. Make a profit from the scammer(s).
Not so sure it was slick scam. Sounds more like they screwed up to me. Assuming there’s not a late theft of the money by Paypal some time soon.Posted 1 year agoDezBSubscriber
Yep, was made aware of that listing today and it’s the same bike. At least they managed to take their own pictures this time.
Ebay used to have a “report this item” for things that were listed elsewhere… it’s against their policies. Worth a look if they still have it on ebay as well.Posted 1 year agostevedocMember
https://www.facebook.com/groups/727706997367045/permalink/1196820117122395/?sale_post_id=1196820117122395 … am i right leaving this herePosted 1 year agoedlongMember
Unfortunately I have nothing to do with the listing that’s using my pictures and eBay don’t seem to give a stuff.
On that, I’m not remotely surprised and, to be honest, in itself I don’t particularly see a problem, since the photos are of the item in question.
I’ve done the same myself a couple of times when I’ve bought stuff that’s not fitted and rather than take new photos I’ve just re-advertised them using the photos from the original listing, why is that something you’d expect eBay to have an issue with? I’ve seen others even link back to old listings when they can’t be bothered to do their own.Posted 1 year ago
You’re telling me. I’m starting to think they were defo both in on it and have my money and my bike, which they’ve now sold via ebay using my pictures. Paypal quoting sellers protection rather than buyers protection with regards to ‘PP Gift’. That’s me done with selling online, too many scumbags about. I’m furious! Bet the Police, Paypal and Ebay do f all too.Posted 1 year agoOscillate WildlyMember
Ouch ouch ouch! Feel for you bud though not entirely surprised PayPal have claimed back… There was no way they’d just give him the money back and not get it back somehow
So for those saying it wasn’t a clever scam… Well it really was and worked a treat
**** scum bags sadly think your screwed as police won’t be interested and PayPal won’t help youPosted 1 year ago
I don’t understand this bit – surely if the money was sent “gift” there is neither a buyer nor a seller?
The distinction between regular/gift is something only PayPal make, it’s not a real thing as far as the bank is concerned. They just see a (fraudulent) transaction. This is why it’s vital to follow the PP rules/process if you want their backup. (easy to say in hindsight 🙁 ).Posted 1 year ago
Yes, as above, PP basically told me I have no sellers protection as used gift. Always assumed it was the buyer taking the risk but you live and learn!
On with the Police now so we will see what happens. I really can’t afford to lose both the bike and £835 right now.Posted 1 year agoAkersSubscriber
I’m sure this is a naive question but, can the police not demand both the details of the seller and latest buyer of your bike fromEbay and PayPal?
Could the scammer be traced through the bank details provided to Ebay and/or Paypal?
Could the buyers details not be used to seize the bike as stolen property? Or is this to much hard work for modern policing?Posted 1 year agowinstonSubscriber
Unless the police think the scammer is involved in something bigger and this is a way in they are unlikely to follow it up. To many variables to make an easy prosecution means it will cost more than its worth – something the scammers also know. Twice I’ve had Sky TV accounts set up using my stolen credit card details clearly showing the address of the perps with no follow up by either the banks or the police. Just refunded my money and not even an apology for their shoddy systems not being secure. Its just not worth the time for the cops as they know that even if by some miracle they get the case to court the scum will wriggle out on a technicality.Posted 1 year ago
My only hope if that they recover the bike from the ebay sale as it is easily traceable and I have provided all details of frame numbers etc but unfortunately I expect Winston will be right and however easy it would be to chase up they just won’t bother. Feeling really flat now, gutted. What’s the point of having nice things if some one can pinch them in pretty much broad daylight and get away without Ebay, Paypal and possibly the Police making the slightest effort to recover them? You can see why there’s so many scumbags about when it’s so easy to make money that way.Posted 1 year ago
I don’t want to be harsh, but it really isn’t anything to do with PayPal. Someone just emailed you a random address & you posted a bike to them. PP have systems in place to stop this happening, but to use them you have to pay their fees, which is fair enough IMO.
I agree the scamming scumbags suck balls though 🙁Posted 1 year ago
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