Ryan Adams…another creep?

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  • Ryan Adams…another creep?
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    Well, it’s not looking good for him.
    New album had been pulled, amp and pedal suppliers are chucking him under the bus too.
    Being nasty and manipulating with your partners is one thing, texting sexy time stuff with underage people is a whole different ball game.
    It does seem like he’s being tried and found guilty by public opinion but there does seem to be a lot of smoke if there is no fire like he says.
    I’ve never had this sort of thing happen to an artist I liked, anyone else? Deleting all his stuff and binning his CDs seems a bit premature but necessary in the future?

    Ryan Adams’ album ‘Big Colors’ has release cancelled following sexual misconduct claims

    MSP
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    When I saw the headline earlier, I thought they had missed the B from the beginning of his name. I know some posters like to pretend not to know who celebrities are, but in this case I genuinely don’t have a **** clue who he is and why he is famous. But he does look like a creep, so he must be guilty.

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    Shocked. For MSP’s benefit RA is very talented, he’s been around for quite a long time. Not burning my CDs or books just yet.

    Edit: His first solo album, Demolition, came out in 2002. Not sure when he hooked up with The Cardinals.

    MSP
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    A visit to youtube revealed he is a “creator” of bland dad rock. So more in common with Bryan Adams than just a similar name.

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    Er, no. Definitely not MSP.

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    A got given Gold as a secret santa gift this year. Binned it.

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    but in this case I genuinely don’t have a **** clue who he is and why he is famous
    Dull, derivative guitar music. Never understood why journos rated his stuff. Won’t be missed as plenty similar to listen to.

    CountZero
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    I’m not going to join in on trial by public opinion, I prefer trial by judge and a jury.
    For anyone not familiar with either artist, Bryan Adams is Canadian, Ryan Adams is American.

    Don’t think the thread is about whether he’s any good or not DebZ. But don’t let that stop you…

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    I think it gets called alt-country/rock but whatever it is I’m sure it isn’t Dadrock.

    He’s had some ‘issues’ over the years and was seen as quite a sensitive soul by many.

    His new stuff was sounding good from the snippets he had released but I think we won’t here it for a while, if ever.

    Gold is a great album from the formative years of my relationship with my missus. One of those ‘if in doubt’ driving albums. On a pure selfish note I don’t want to lose it!
    EDIT: Cinnamon Girl: yes! La cienga…if THE track of the album.

    2nd EDIT: I don’t think I’ve ever gone on a thread about something I know nothing and just slagged it all off. Weird 😳

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    But don’t let that stop you

    Did you not see I quoted someone else? that means I’m responding to them. Bit like this Double D. See, wasn’t even about Ryan Adams, that.

    Genuinely gutted and hope with all my heart it’s not true, but why would these women come forward with stories like this if it wasn’t. Music is a pretty big part of my life generally but his more than most, and his are some of the songs I have the strongest emotional connection and some of it has got me through some pretty rough patches in the past. Makes it all the harder to take the news and pretty torn what to do if it turns out to be true. I know the done thing is to burn it all and boycott, but such is the importance of his music to me it will be really hard.

    EDIT: no point

    Anyway, as for Ryan Adams, I kinda thought to myself when it came out, “Jeez, I’m glad I saw him before all this came out…” which is a bit of a shite thought. But whether he’s guilty of it all or not, he’s pretty much finished now for the foreseeable future.

    eddiebaby
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    Can I confess that I haven’t got rid of all my Gary Glitter albums.

    (Or my Rolling Stones, Led Zep and Bowie stuff.)

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    Wasn’t he in Whiskey Town before going solo, so around since mid nineties? He’s nothing like Bryan Adams or dad rock for that matter. I’ll be disappointed if it’s true, but not surprised. He’s a musician, they’ all massive **** ups as far as I can tell.

    Can I confess that I haven’t got rid of all my Gary Glitter albums.

    I’d say no eddie but that ship appears to have sailed.

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    I’ve only heard good things about Bryan Adams, apparently he’s a very nice man.

    Dunno about this fella but the etiquette of what to do about people’s music if they turn out to be wrong uns is fascinating.

    Personally I still enjoy Jackson 5 songs and early MJ solo stuff, up to Thriller I suppose. He probably started the paedo stuff after that, which is convenient as his music also got worse.

    Is that ethically sound?

    Just bought tickets a few weeks ago for his forthcoming tour. I’m guessing that’s binned now. A brilliantly talented musician if a little fragile. If hes done what they accuse him of then he’ll receive his punishment.

    A lot of pitchforks are out on twitter from the keyboard warriors.

    The mans already hung.

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    I’ve only heard good things about Bryan Adams

    What’s he got to do with anything?

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    Personally I still enjoy Jackson 5 songs and early MJ solo stuff, up to Thriller I suppose.

    So basically you liked him before he was white?

    Racist

    regenesis
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    I’ve only heard good things about Bryan Adams

    What’s he got to do with anything?

    Keep up at the back…

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    The Bryan/Ryan thing is a long running ‘joke’, and is up and running on here too 🙄

    I doubt many Lost Prophets tracks get listened to anymore.
    We expect our artists to do weird stuff and acknowledge drug taking, infidelity and hotel trashing to be part of the creative process.
    I just wish they’d stop fiddling with kids.

    mikewsmith
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    I doubt many Lost Prophets tracks get listened to anymore.
    We expect our artists to do weird stuff and acknowledge drug taking, infidelity and hotel trashing to be part of the creative process.
    I just wish they’d stop fiddling with kids.

    Was a strange thing, listening to Colin Murray and one of the panel wanted to pick 2 Little Boys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Little_Boys Which is an incredibly sad but meaningful song who’s power has changed due to Rolf Harris singing it, worth a listen – it’s towards the back end of the podcast
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06skl4y

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    The old ones are the best, eh?

    Not that Ryan would agree with that, allegedly.

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    Dunno about this fella but the etiquette of what to do about people’s music if they turn out to be wrong uns is fascinating.

    Wagner?

    PrinceJohn
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    I saw lostprophets live. Not listened to them since the allegations

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    I don’t think Ian Watkins’ sentence of 29 years for ‘being a nonce’ can be classed as allegations!

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    Funkmaster – it’s a fair cop guv

    😀

    fossy
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    60’s / 70’s / 80’s star is up for abuse….

    And… about time…..

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    Gutted.I’m a fan boy & have seen him perform many times. He is definitely a volatile character, but that doesn’t excuse grooming underage girls or being a bit of a rotter. I was also a Gary Glitter fan …I fear a pattern is beginning to show.

    mrmoofo
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    One feels that there will be a long list of others behind him, should the allegations be true. The whole 70 / 80s groupie scene was rife with the underage.

    eddiebaby
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    The whole 70 / 80s groupie scene was rife with the underage.

    Certainly seems to be the case. Anyone still listening to The Stones? Bowie? Led Zepp? And thats just the big and well known cases.

    ElShalimo
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    Bill Wyman….

    doris5000
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    this is it. Can’t stand Ryan Adams but there are plenty that I do like who have had allegations/convictions against them…

    Miles Davis
    James Brown
    Led Zep
    The Stones
    R Kelly
    Michael Jackson
    Gang Fatale
    Swans
    Loefah

    …and on and on. It’s so frequent that there are plenty more indie/rock bands where I’ve seen allegations and just forgotten about it, it falls into the current.

    I thought that this article in the guardian about ‘beta male misogyny’ in indie/alt music was very good:

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/feb/14/the-ryan-adams-allegations-are-the-tip-of-an-indie-music-iceberg

    Reminds me a bit of Glastonbury the other year. Out of the two big headliners, one was a bit of a gobby pillock (Kanye), and the other was literally on the sex offenders register for child porn offences (Pete Townshend). And guess which one had the petition against him saying he wasn’t suitable for Glastonbury?

    We (society) will do some pretty ridiculous moral gymnastics to excuse people we want to excuse at times.

    Strangers Almanac by Whiskeytown and his first solo album, Heartbreaker are beautiful works, definitely not bland dad rock. Gold is ok, a bit too polished for my taste. After that I just couldn’t keep up with his output.

    CountZero
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    Seems he’s very controlling, and both Mandy Moore, his ex-wife, and Phoebe Bridgers, who he was introduced to and whose album he was involved with, as well as her for a time have told of his needy and controlling behaviour – demanding to know where Phoebe was, what she was doing, threatening suicide when she didn’t reply to texts, then refusing to release music.
    I love Phoebe’s album, and one track in particular, ‘Motion Sickness’, which turns out to be about Adams.
    That sort of behaviour on its own isn’t enough to condemn someone, many people are like that, of both sexes, but reports of his behaviour with a girl younger than 16 via text is well out of order.
    Here’s the lyrics to Motion Sickness…

    “Motion Sickness”

    I hate you for what you did
    And I miss you like a little kid
    I faked it every time but that’s alright
    I can hardly feel anything
    I hardly feel anything at all

    You gave me fifteen hundred
    To see your hypnotherapist
    I only went one time, you let it slide
    Fell on hard times a year ago
    Was hoping you would let it go and you did

    I have emotional motion sickness
    Somebody roll the windows down
    There are no words in the English language
    I could scream to drown you out

    I’m on the outside looking through
    You’re throwing rocks around your room
    And while you’re bleeding on your back in the glass
    I’ll be glad that I made it out
    And sorry that it all went down like it did

    I have emotional motion sickness
    Somebody roll the windows down
    There are no words in the English language
    I could scream to drown you out

    And why do you sing with an English accent
    I guess it’s too late to change it now
    You know I’m never gonna let you have it
    But I will try to drown you out

    You said when you met me you were bored
    You said when you met me you were bored
    And you you were in a band when I was born

    I have emotional motion sickness
    I try to stay clean and live without
    And I want to know what would happen
    If I surrender to the sound
    Surrender to the sound

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    Adding to the historical stuff… Every Christmas, Slade…
    Dave Hill once boasted that he’d bought a house next to a girls’ school. Pretty sure his mate Gary used to come and stay for the ‘advantages’.
    But, nobody cares when they’re yelling along with Noddy.

    Edukator
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    Is this the point I should reveal I’m really a 15-old-boy and will be prosecuting Molgrips for calling me a prick wehn I was 12.

    FFS he never even “physically” met the girl around whom the main enquiry is based. I haven’t bothered to look at the other cases but one is a biiter soon to be ex and there’s a good chance some of the others could be gold diggers.

    Let the FBI do there job then bump the thread and we’ll start talking when there’s more the mud slinging to discuss. I’d never heard of him before this thread either.

    doris5000
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    I haven’t bothered to look at the other cases but one is a biiter soon to be ex and there’s a good chance some of the others could be gold diggers.

    :rolleyes:

    women, eh? Tch.

    FFS

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