Rugby world cup

molgrips – Member

How many NH sides have looked slick, well drilled and professional so far?

Errrmmmmmm

*scratches head*

Heres a thought

If Ashton was scottish would they have beaten both Argentina and England? Is a world class finisher what we need?

Foden, Ashton, Flood and Stevens are the only English players I would have for the Scotland team – and Flood only cos he is better than what we have not that he is great

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Errrmmmmmm

*scratches head*

I thought Wales were the best so far.

maybe but slick well drilled and professional?

Anyone got stats of handling errors and mistakes for the tournament so far?

espn scrum .com has loads of stats

Morning all! Some good movement from the Argies, but hardly a walk-over so far…

so England are slightly better than scotland.

Yes, and if in the next 80 minutes of play, England are only slightly better than France, then we’ll be in the semis. Where, if we’re only slightly better than the opposition, we’ll be in the final. You only have to be slightly better to win, though I’m sure most of you myopic haterz would still be going on about this if it had been a 30-point margin.

I seem to remember for all the Welsh heroics (and I was yelling at the TV too), that SA, the current world champions were only slightly better too… In fact, last tournament, the French were only slightly better than the Kiwis. You only have to be slightly better.

Notice the subtle shift in all the English fans…Now thinking they can win it by being “just a little bit better!” How much better do you thing England can get? Not as good as the Welsh or Irish based on the group games. I look forward to the excuses for the rest of the tournament,should be good to see if your sorry ITV’s, commentary team can scoop Dilly’s fitness coach cracker yesterday.

On the players numbers debate,I played Premier 1 up here for Dundee.We were the biggest team in about a 40 mile radius.We put out three teams and a vets. I went to play for Streatham Croydon then Scottish in Lundonium, SC had 5 teams and a vets, Scottish 9 teams,vets and youth right up to U21. In Scotland there were about twenty teams in the area,which is the central belt ex Glasgow and Embra.I realise somewhere as heavily populated as London is always going to have a high concentration, but player numbers are what count, what difference does it make if the game is “exclusive?”

Anyway ‘mon the neighbours!

Notice the subtle shift in all the English fans…Now thinking they can win it by being “just a little bit better!” How much better do you thing England can get? Not as good as the Welsh or Irish based on the group games. I look forward to the excuses for the rest of the tournament,should be good to see if your sorry ITV’s, commentary team can scoop Dilly’s fitness coach cracker yesterday.

Shift in thinking or not, if NZ win this one by 100, then lose next week by 1, then the loss is all that matters.

I’ve been away for 10 days, so what were your ‘excuses’ for losing to the Argies, then a (by your own inference) poor England team? I hope the flight home’s a good one!

I’ve been away for 10 days, so what were your ‘excuses’ for losing to the Argies, then a (by your own inference) poor England team? I hope the flight home’s a good one!

Actually I have been away,and it was a bus,not a flight.The Argentina game I thankfully didn’t see,obviously you didn’t either.Still, the hammering you gave them gives you bragging rights. Lots of whining over the citing to deflect from the performance.

It would only involve looking over a couple of pages,so please show me the quote where I have suggested we would beat Argentina,or England? Or my excuses for losing to either.Since you ask; here is my excuse for Scotland…We are not good enough,we can’t score tries.
What is yours for England? Either England were/are poor, or Scotland are a better team than anybody gives them credit for.I know which one I lean towards. If it makes you comfy,trot out the same Scotland raising their game against England line.Which would sound like an excuse…

This is too good;

a (by your own inference) poor England team?

Do you think this is a GOOD England team? Honestly?
Here is why I think England are poor; in 2003 England were magic,2007 they were just at the same level as the SH. 2011 you are not confident of being better than the rest of the NH. That was demonstrated yesterday, for all your bravado,England led for less than a min against the poorest of the Home Nations.And worse than that,turned over ball in scoring situations far too often,failed to convert pressure,in a way the 2003 side would never have done, against both us and Argentina. England also creaked in the scrum,(against a pack that has had pelters) and were fairly predictable behind it.NZ/Saffers would have been 20 points up at half time,even without Carter.That is why I think England are a poor side this time round.Feel free to refute the above argument.I am interested in how you think England can improve.

Carter; deserves to play in a WC final, shame.

Morning all. Have I missed anything?

And they’re off. 😀

That is why I think England are a poor side this time round.Feel free to refute the above argument.I am interested in how you think England can improve.

I think you’ll find I’ve never said England are a great side in this tournament – their performances have been far from it. I was interested how the haterz were happily slagging off England, whilst missing the most cogent point: that it was actually Scotland who lost. However, the advantage of being crap is it’s easier to get better than if you’re already good. I don’t think anyone could argue against the fact that the current England side does have some great potential, if they used their heads and played like a team, using said potential. From where England are to where they need to be to progress far, there is much room for improvement. Cutting out the indiscipline would be a major factor, and as they’re generally unforced errors, something that could (but probably won’t) improve.

Anyway, I’ll leave you to your childish sulking and watch what looks like it could be a great performance from Wales. C’mon Cymru!

😀 But looking very untidy in the build up. As proud as I was with the S.A. loss, I think I’ll take an ugly win today. 😆

However, the advantage of being crap is it’s easier to get better than if you’re already good. I don’t think anyone could argue against the fact that the current England side does have some great potential, if they used their heads and played like a team, using said potential. From where England are to where they need to be to progress far, there is much room for improvement. Cutting out the indiscipline would be a major factor, and as they’re generally unforced errors, something that could (but probably won’t) improve

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Have you been drinking? Because that is rather contradictory.
Ah, right; so anybody who does not rate England is guilty of being “haterz” or “childish sulking” OK, that makes it much easier to understand your posts,as you were.

Ah, right; so anybody who does not rate England is guilty of being “haterz” or “childish sulking” OK, that makes it much easier to understand your posts,as you were.

Are you not used to that? It’s not worth rising to. It’s generally followed by lots of confusion between the tems england and Great Britain.

Anyway; Wales looking good(as robinson throws into touch)

😆

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Have you been drinking? Because that is rather contradictory.

How is it contradictory? A team playing below their potential has much more chance of improving, than one playing above its potential. That’s a concept even you should be able to grasp.

🙂

Let’s keep this up for the second half. 😆

Let’s keep this up for the second half.

+1

Great so far, given the age of the team, this could be the next great Wales team for some time

Obstruction? 😐

😆

59 unanswered points, fair play.

Wow… superb work indeed!

Feel sorry for Gavin, mind 🙁

Now, come on Italy! 😉

Loved that 😀 excellent performance, now to take out the angry dogs.

AWESOME. What can you say? Excellent game for Wales and a big message, almost point for point with S.A. Top defending, no real errors and a fair spread of try scoring. Shame that Jenkins can’t chip and run.
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How many NH sides have looked slick, well drilled and professional so far?

2 Wales and Ireland, also would add Scotland who looked very well drilled in a ultra conservative sort of way. England however look like they are not sure what they are trying to do, dominate up front and play for territory one min then headless running the next. Lots of cheep shots from them too, I wonder who their coach is?

Anyway nice to hear that idiot Armitage has been cited, dirty ****.

Good thing the ref wasn’t too concerned with forward passes thoughh!

Shame that Jenkins can’t chip and run.

just have to hope he’s not too badly injured, same with Bennett as Burns is shite (although to be fair he improved on his dire display against Namibia today).

Ireland will beat Wales by disrupting the welsh lineout.

can anyone tell me if I want Ireland or Italy to win next, given Aus injuries woe’s it might be better to play them in the 1/4’s

Good thing the ref wasn’t too concerned with forward passes thoughh!

yeah I thought he was shit

Slick from Wales,over to Ireland.

zokes

I’ve been away for 10 days, so what were your ‘excuses’ for losing to the Argies, then a (by your own inference) poor England team? I hope the flight home’s a good one!

No excuses. simply not good enough

There are reasons and I think most of it must be laid at the coaches door. Scotland played well below their potential even tho Robinson had everything he wanted pretty much in terms of preparation.

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Armitage cited?

Anyway nice to hear that Armitage has been cited

It is, it means Cueto gets a game. One of those ‘improvements’ that England can’t make, apparently….

And just for A_A:

Let’s just remember how saintly the Welsh are…

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_7217453,00.html

Armitage despite being a dirty **** is a very good player, one of the few in the England squad who attack space.