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  • Premier Icon bigblackshed
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    Wales dominated every aspect of that game, combined with Scotland imploding on basic fundamentals.

    Job jobbed for Wales. I couldn’t have hoped for a better start to the 6N.

    tjagain
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    rhys – just a coment for the poster who said the scots centres looked out of their depth.

    mindmap3
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    But Wales were missing the likes of JD2 in the centres.

    Scotland were poor today. Maybe it was just one of those days.

    Tom B
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    My take *somewhat tongue in cheek*

    Scotland have no front row, no real pack, no defence, no centres and were lucky to not end up with no points!

    Seriously though, defence…..you defend so narrow that two quick passes crrates an overlap yet straighten up and there’s a huge whole where your centres should be!

    tjagain
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    I think a lot of it was down to tactics and mental preparation.  Scotland looked beaten after 45 mins.  Not something we have seen for a while.

    “you do realise Scotland are missing five centres all of who would be picked certainly before Harris.”

    Whilst Wales were missing
    Loopy Liam
    North
    Amos
    Davies
    Morgan
    Biggar
    Webb

    You could argue the was an entirely second string welsh backline apart from maybe Parkes.

    My take on it?  Scotland in the first half had more than parity

    Really? Were you watching a different game?

    Scotland were lucky to be only 14 down at the half. Wales blew a few chances, as they also did in the second half.

    If you’ve got no go ahead in forwards, no lineout and a headless chicken at fly half you’re probably not going to win. Factor in a poor scrum, lack of decision making and no ability to change plan A and you’re definitely not going to win.

    It was likeTwickenham last year except Wales didn’t take their chances as well. This is why only 2 Scots made the Lions Squad – lack of bottle away from home.

    gauss1777
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    Scotland won’t want my pity, but I really would like them to start doing well. Unfortunately, you now have to wonder if they can win a game.

    Hope Johnny comes through in one piece. 🙂

    “I think a lot of it was down to tactics and mental preparation”

    Indeed…out coached. Edwards defence really did a number on the Scots and they kept falling into the trap by going wide early and not drawing in any defenders. Apart from i their own 22 Wales just dumped and fanned without contesting the ball and Scotland did try to tie in defenders by using any ball carrying forwards.

    Cmon Ireland

    tjagain
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    namastee – we obviously were not watching the same game.  Scotland had most of the territory and possession first half – and most of the errors.  Gifted Wales 14 pts and from that point there was no way back as Scots heads went down and Wales had freedom to try anything – which they took well

    http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/matchstats?gameId=291689&league=180659

    Let’s see how Ireland conspire to lose to this French side.

    mindmap3
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    It’s ok though TJ, they were good errors according to Nicoll! 😂

    TJ

    Stats mean nothing. The game isn’t played on a computer.

    Possession and territory are meaningless if you don’t do anything clever when you have them. The ABs frequently lose the statistical battle. Big deal.

    Wales cut the the Scottish “defense” open frequently in the first half and with a bit more luck would’ve had a couple more tries.

    Gifting 14 points? No use bleating about an interception. If you constantly throw long flat passes up in the face of the defensive line then someone’s gonna pick one off. Especially if the scrum half takes two steps before throwing said pass. A blind man could have seen that coming.

    Look, just take it on the chin man. You were ****. You got humped. There’s always France next week.

    tjagain
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    Oh yes we did get humped – but to say scotland were the poorer team in the first half is simply not true old chap.  Scotland also cut Wales open a few times.  Second half was one way traffic tho for sure

    I wasn’t bleating about the early points – its just a fact and changed the whole game giving Patchell especially confidence to play freely and Scotland chasing the game

    Tom B
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    First 10 minutes it was all Scotland (minus the tries) next ten it was honours even. Next 60 only one team in it really!

    mindmap3
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    First half was mostly one way traffic too dude. There was one noticeable break by Gray but after that…

    France Ireland is a stodgy affair so far.

    I hope the 6n isn’t going to be dominated by the over use of the box kick. Ireland’s backs are a joy to watch in full flight. Let them run with the ball not chase it.

    “but to say scotland were the poorer team in the first half is simply not true old chap. ”

    It is Wales contained everything the Scots tried and scored two tries themselves.

    I see ireland are still playing anti rugby and Moore still hates the French!

    Well to use an Alan Shearer-esque comment, the scoreboard might have indicated which was the poorer team in the first half.

    Anyway, take comfort that you’ll never be as bad as France are now.

    dufusdip
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    Scotland forcing the game.  Finn Russell arrogant as **** and centres that are inexperienced on international stage and should have been subbed very early.

    Scotland set false expectations on meaningless autumn tests yet again.  looks like a battle with Italy for the spoon and that hurts.

    Wales uppes their game massively from autumn tests and blitz worked a treat.

    Jalibert took a fair hit there from O’Ki. Hope he’s ok – hell of an ask for him to play at his age.

    tjagain
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    “and blitz worked a treat”

    Scotland / Glasgow often make space and time on the ball with loops in the centres.  Wales read that superbly.  Scott Williams? That was one of the key things.  Its where Scotland usually get breaks and they didn’t make one like that all game.

    Dufus  who would you bring on if you subbed Harris or Jones?  Horne the only centre on the bench and he is hardly a world beater either. although more used to playing with Russell

    HIA for a bad knee?

    Hmmm.

    AA spot on re coaching and duf with the arrogant comment. Like watching a cocky U13s side playing a mature U15 version. Wales stuffed Scotland on and off the pitch. After the Autumn that was sad, but Gatt correct    “Again” 😉

    perhaps Scotland could have done with some quality and maturity like a Farrell?

    tjagain
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    its a bit cynical CFH

    To go back to the earlier game – Wales defensive lineout was also superb.  The right men jumping and jumping high

    Tom B
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    Lol a_a yeah Moore really isnti hiding his hatred of the French very well is he!

    rhys
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    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Premier Icon bigblackshed
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    And then something from nothing.

    #ChasingFrenchGhostsInParis

    mindmap3
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    Was just about to type how France look blunt with zero cutting edge and they score a nice try from nowt.

    Nervous final seven minutes. Especially given how many penalties the French have given away.

    gauss1777
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    Eventually something exciting, I thought he’d fluffed the put down at first. All from nothing too.

    dantsw13
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    A stodgy game splutters into life! Maybe Ireland will play now?

    mindmap3
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    That HIA looks well iffy…

    dantsw13
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    The tournament is now VERY interesting.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    That HIA looks well iffy…

    Thats twice for France?   Something odd there indeed.

    mindmap3
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    Sexton rightly fuming about it too 😂

    gauss1777
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    Nigel Owens HIA signal, looks like Gareth Thomas’ try celebration.

    Big missed penalty.

    dantsw13
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    After prop – gate vs Wales last year it looks rubbish

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    Incredible and so disciplined by both sides there, what a win for Ireland there!

    Premier Icon tallie
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    Fair play; well done Ireland!  What a finish!

    Wow. Not good for England. But love that. Brilliant Ireland

    fantastic end to a rather dull match

    mindmap3
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    An exciting end to what had been a dire game until that point. Ireland are so well drilled but my god they can be dull to watch as a neutral.

    France’s defence was good by they gave away too many penalties.

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