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  • Rory! Stewart!
  • Poopscoop
    Full Member

    So he’s going for London Mayor.

    Would you guys vote for him, if you could?

    He’s now an independent so I don’t feel so dirty for thinking he seems an ok sort of bloke.

    What’s your take on him?

    Tom-B
    Free Member

    Have you been on the cooking Sherry?

    winston
    Free Member

    Well I wouldn’t put it past him. Party politics are not really in vogue right now, he’s got more charisma and know how on conducting a campaign than the current official conservative candidate and the current mayor hasn’t exactly set pulses racing….plus it’s been done before. Livingstone won as an indy.

    I reckon it’s evens

    colournoise
    Full Member

    Not part of that London, and not a Tory in any way but I reckon he’s in with a fair shout. I quite like his not-quite-populism, not-quite-partisan, not-quite-elitist approach.

    I’d like more politicians of all persuasions to be a bit more Rory.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Nah Tory candidate Sean Bailey was already looking shaky

    But I reckon Rory has just gifted it to Sadiq Kahn

    mattyfez
    Full Member

    Don’t know much about London mayoral politics as I’m from the grim North.

    Rory as ex tories go seems reasonable.

    I do emphatically think that Sadiq has has a really rough ride as he’s labour, and his predecessor was Johnson and the tories have slashed budjets for police etc. And then blamed him for being weak at tackling crime. In particular street crime, knives, etc.

    RustySpanner
    Full Member

    Rory is the most dangerous kind of Tory – one that appears human.
    If he had a shred of decency he wouldn’t have joined them in the first place.

    Rory Stewart voted in favour of repealing the Human Rights Act 1998; against plans to save the steel industry including fast-tracking infrastructure projects requiring large amounts of steel

    Rory Stewart voted to remove the duty on the Commission for Equality and Human Rights to work to support the development of a society where people’s ability to achieve their potential is not limited by prejudice or discrimination and there is respect for human rights.

    He was absent for most of the NI gay marriage debates too.

    See also Ken Clarke.

    A moderate Tory is still a Tory.
    And all the more dangerous for it.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Having listened to Rory more – it strikes me that he has moved on philosophically somewhat from his earlier Tory days, much like Bercow. It’s not as obvious as Bercow but he has – I find it hard to condemn someone because of previously held views unless they are outright nasty. I get the feeling and hope that his views change further, we will see.

    Remember, we need opposition as a counter balance – if you are going to try and find bipartisan support on issues then you need people like Rory. Condemning them is ridiculous.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    I’ve never voted Tory. I’d never vote Tory. The language used by Rusty is as dangerous as those he (and I) politically oppose. No, probably much more dangerous. We’re all human.

    chevychase
    Full Member

    He announced his resignation by reading out a private personal document of the kind our ginger non-king is suing the press over.

    He’s just boris of a decade ago.

    Remember? When he was on ‘have I got news for you’ – and the retard british public fawned over him because of his floppy mop and easy going demeanour?

    You effing idiots.

    Didn’t fall for this ****t then, or for this identikit idiot now.

    Snakes.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Rory actually has a sound grip on foreign affairs, security and development – I don’t remember Boris hiking Afghanistan.

    They couldn’t be more different in terms of character – it’s just they both sound posh and effete to you.

    This isn’t a man who lacks moral conviction:

    I’ve never voted Tory. I’d never vote Tory. The language used by Rusty is as dangerous as those he (and I) politically oppose. No, probably much more dangerous. We’re all human.

    Go on? Give us an example?

    Edukator
    Free Member

    A Hong-Kong-born-Eton-Oxford-silver-spoon-in-gob Tory – come the révolution… . It’s a mind set. Only the stinking rich should consider voting for him.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    You can lay the accusation of being privileged on Corbyn as well.

    You can’t judge an MPs character entirely on their voting record thanks to our party system. If instead of voting for the ridiculously outmoded notion of parties and thus MPs constrained by the whip system and instead voted for individuals at a local level who we thought best represented our constituency- then we would be able to judge their character purely from their voting record.

    But that’s way to **** sensible for an entrenched polarised population that like to pigeon hole everyone that disagrees with them or find a reason to blame their shit futile meaningless lives on out groups.

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    London Mayor?.

    Who really gives a flying ****.

    rone
    Full Member

    Tries to come across as reasonable but he’s not. May Brexit voter, austerity voter etc. Seems very confused to me.

    He was one of Binners’ Brexit heroes – Christ knows why.

    Straight off that MAD comic too.

    As above too with Nobeer.

    kilo
    Full Member

    I could vote for him but most definitely won’t, publicity stunt for his career after leaving the Tory Party and not what London needs.

    BillMC
    Full Member

    His nickname among the tories in parliament was ‘Florence of Belgravia’.

    cheddarchallenged
    Free Member

    He has zero connection with London so other than bagging the generous salary it’s hard to see what his motivation for running for office is.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    He will split the tory vote and ensure a labour victory

    As rusty says – once a tory always a tory.

    No attempt at ethical or social seduction can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.

    Aneurin Bevan

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Cheddar – its all about power. He can’t get any thru parliament so this is the second prize

    nickc
    Full Member

    You can’t judge an MPs character entirely on their voting record thanks to our party system.

    Indeed, anyone using opposition day motion votes to demonstrate the “mendacity” of their particular chosen politician is just being successfully propagandised at.

    As rusty says – once a tory always a tory.

    The increasing Footballisation of our 2 party system is killing any attempt at rational debate

    shermer75
    Free Member

    Nobeerinthefridge

    Member

    London Mayor?.

    Who really gives a flying ****

    I’m guessing the people who live in London?

    tjagain
    Full Member

    nickc – see that quote – its from 60+ years ago and its perfectly correct.

    You cannot have a rational debate with a tory. You never have been able to. Its all about power, privilege and cruelty. We have seen such deliberate cruelty from our current crop of tories that they Bevan quote is still as true now as it was all that time ago

    Lets just remind you. Deliberate impovrishment of the sick and disabled.

    Deliberate destruction of public services

    Deliberate discrimination against LBGT

    Support for vile dictatorships the world over.

    Stewart is a tory. He is lower than vermin

    Marin
    Free Member

    Not sure on his politics but he walked across Afghanistan so he’s got bigger balls than 99.9% of the posters on here.

    nickc
    Full Member

    You cannot have a rational debate with a tory.

    Stewart is a tory. He is lower than vermin

    Equally you can’t have a rational debate with anyone who comes out with nonsense like this. Personally I judge people not parties, Just as there are MPs in Labour/SNP/PC I can’t take seriously, there are Tories to whom I’ll pay attention when they have something to say.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    So what does Stewart have to say? How can he defend what he has voted for? tens of thousands of deaths from policies he has voted for

    You think Bevan was wrong?

    tjagain
    Full Member

    nickc – the reason I am so vehement about this is I have seen the despair and death deliberately caused by the tories. I will never forgive them.

    big_n_daft
    Free Member

    Equally you can’t have a rational debate with anyone who comes out with nonsense like this. Personally I judge people not parties, Just as there are MPs in Labour/SNP/PC I can’t take seriously, there are Tories to whom I’ll pay attention when they have something to say.

    +1

    Richard Burgon/ Lisa Nandy Chope/Tugendhart

    Can’t believe they are in the same parties, I know which I listen to.

    big_n_daft
    Free Member

    Cheddar – its all about power. He can’t get any thru parliament so this is the second prize

    Whereas Sadiq did it for…….

    big_n_daft
    Free Member

    nickc – the reason I am so vehement about this is I have seen the despair and death deliberately caused by the tories. I will never forgive them.

    Should people forgive the hard working NHS/ staff complicit in the Stafford hospital scandal? Or are those deaths valued differently?

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Those deaths are the result of deliberate tory policy! You accept “hard working staff” but put staff under intolerable stress where it is impossible to do their jobs and deaths will happen

    NO other party pushes policies that they KNOW will result in thousands upon thousands of people dying and consider those deaths to be a price worth paying for the tax cuts they give to the rich.

    rone
    Full Member

    So what does Stewart have to say? How can he defend what he has voted for? tens of thousands of deaths from policies he has voted for

    Might be worth checking out James O’Briens podcast with him ‘full disclosure’ – he apparently explains his position.

    Good luck with that.

    I think people confuse his ‘politeness’ with his actions.

    People are what they do not what they say.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Here is one example from today

    Private prisons so a cost cutting measure by cutting staffing numbers and wages while giving money to their pals along with a punative criminal justice system leading to a death thats totally avoidable

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/oct/04/baby-dies-in-uk-prison-after-inmate-gives-birth-alone-in-cell

    Most other rich countries in the world the woman would probably not be in prison and if she was would be in a specialist unit properly staffed – not left alone in a cell

    Deliberate policy they know will cost lives but they do not care.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    This shows how venal he is.
    Against equal rights and human rights for all
    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24964/rory_stewart/penrith_and_the_border/divisions?policy=6703

    nickc
    Full Member

    This shows how venal he is.

    Do you understand the point of opposition day motions? They are literally so that either the Tory’s or Labour can print a list of things opposition MPs have voted against in the campaign literature that drops onto your doormat ever few years. Nothing more. They likely do not, nor likely ever will have any bearing on any individuals (bar a few monstrous ideological idiots on both sides of the benches) view on any subject ever. They are just just tit for tat nonsense so that folk like you can wave them like placards.

    “Look” they say, “He hates you, and gay people, and working people and dogs and cats and the old…Vote for me instead, I love everybody”

    Don’t fall for it, TJ, you’re smarter than that.

    Edukator
    Free Member

    Not sure on his politics but he walked across Afghanistan so he’s got bigger balls than 99.9% of the posters on here.

    Just displaying colonial spirit IMO. It fits in the mindset I mentioned. Hong Kong, India, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan – you see a trend.

    kerley
    Free Member

    It doesn’t matter what he says or what his potentially whipped voting record suggests. He chose to join the Tory party and become a member of parliament of the Tory party.
    He has resigned now that it has become the worst it has been for a few decades but even when he joined it, it was hardly a party for people who actually gave a shit about people was it.

    chevychase
    Full Member

    No different from Johnson.

    Everyone simpered over the PM when he was on HIGNFY despite warning signs that he was a giant thunderc*nt.

    Rory’s ‘resignation speech’ was reading out boris’ school report. Whilst funny, it’s exactly the sort of thing ginger harry and his missus are suing the daily express for – violation of personal, private details, under GDPR etc.

    Bit cavalier with the law eh? Remind you of anyone?

    kilo
    Full Member

    he walked across Afghanistan so he’s got bigger balls than 99.9% of the posters on here.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    nickc – if he had an ounce of compassion or ethics he would not have voted against equal rights and not have voted to deliberately impoverish the disabled

    By voting as he did he shows his true colours.

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