Road tubeless , worth Useing ?
Can’t really see them giving much benefit on the road compared to mtb. The really benefit on the mtb is running at low pressure, something you don’t do on the road.
Most road tyres now are light and very puncture resistant, I have only had 1 puncture in over 4000 miles of riding over the past 2 years so I’m not worried by that.
Performance benefits are just about impossible to calculate.
In that case I’m out.Posted 4 years agosturmeyarcherSubscriber
I’ve run Fulcrum Racing Zero 2-way fit with Hutchinson fusion tyres for 2 years. I think they are marvellous. Ride quality is superb, they’re a bit lighter, great handling in the corners and wet, and the rolling resistence seems as low as anything I’ve ever ridden. In all that time I’ve never had a flat. A small amount of Goo has sealed a few holes from thorns or metal shards for the loss of a few psi. I run them at 90psi rather than 120psi for tubes. I’d say tubs still have the edge for going quick on good roads but tubeless are the best for the real-world.
The downside, as others have pointed out, is the lack of tyre choice. Rim manufacturers are catching on which should prompt more rubber choices. However, the Hutchinson Fusion 3 is an excellent tyre. There are references on the web to fitting problems but I’ve never had a issue.
Give them a go, you can always swap the tyres out for ‘normal + tubes’ if you don’t get on with them.Posted 4 years agobikebouyMember
N ahhh IMO it aint worth it.
I use tubs in the summer for racing and very occasional training, but where I ride I get punctures very often ( scree & flint run off from the fields ) I’ve been caught out once too often having a tub go and not able to fix it.
GP4’s and tubes = reliable.Posted 4 years agoMrSmithMember
I don’t get punctures but would like a little more comfort
Then you should be looking at a modern wide rim of about 23mm, more grip, better rolling resistance and lower pressure. Most manufactures and road teams are moving to wide riims similar to those from HED and Zipp.Posted 4 years ago
Aah, ok then.
I use Fusion 3s anyway, so must say that if I had the wheels I’d give it a punt. Just not totally convinced at the moment, for the same reasons generally given – don’t really want to run lower pressures, and can’t see the puncture protection benefits at the pressures involved. Does Stan’s actually do anything at 100psi, or just coat you with latex?Posted 4 years ago
I suppose it depends on the roads you ride. If the roads are mainly smooth, then higher pressures are fine.
I ride on the Isle of Man where there are lots of bad condition roads, or just rough tar. Lower pressures will be faster due to the tyre gripping, not skipping, plus better traction in the corners and no worries of pinch flats on the inevitable pot hole.Posted 4 years ago
Plus the benefit if less worry about flats from crap on the road.on and onSubscriber
Simon Barnes, really ?
They ARE tubeless, all the info included in the pack listed them as compatible.
I actually purchased them to run with tubes but after reading the info I though – result, may as well run without tubes as I’m using alpha pro rims.
Shame I don’t still have the paperwork to confirm.Posted 4 years agosimondbarnesMember
I’m happy to be corrected but I can find no info on them anywhere at all, including michelin’s website and the B2B websites of 2 of michelin’s distributors in the UK. You’d have thought that there would be some mention of them somewhere?
Maybe you could weigh one of the tyres? A non tubeless one will be circa 200g, tubeless closer to 300g (rough figures, but tubeless road tyres a lot heavier than standard)Posted 4 years ago
Stans rim spec sheet just say for mtb not more than 40psi and road tubeless use the tyre recomended pressurePosted 4 years ago
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