trash the planet bounce was short lived

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 45% (+2)
CON: 24% (-3)
LDM: 11% (+1)
RFM: 8% (=)
GRN: 7% (=)
SNP: 3% (=)

Via @YouGov, 27-28 Sep.
Changes w/ 21-22 Sep.

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) September 28, 2023

and he really isn’t good at this

Rishi Sunak repeatedly refuses to answer questions from BBC Manchester about whether he will scrap HS2 to the city and just talks about filling potholes instead pic.twitter.com/ncqsMknxxX

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) September 28, 2023

Tell me you’ve decided to scrap HS2 to Manchester without telling me you’ve decided to scrap HS2 to Manchester…

That interview is worth watching as well as listening to as you can see the look of annoyance and exasperation on Anna Jamesons face as Sunak once again ignores the question he’s actually been asked and starts spouting his usual utter bollocks in that horribly patronising and condescending tone of his…

https://x.com/BBCRadioManc/status/1707343474951901689?s=20

I don’t know why Twitter/X links aren’t pasting in properly and just displaying as links

There will be much cheering in town halls up and down the country in anticipation of new funds to fill potholes.
So rish! how much net new money and when will it be available?
Let’s start with £500 millions – and see how little you get for that.
Filling potholes isn’t really the way to improve the quality of roads – we need wholesale resurfacing and complete renewal of road markings.
Talking of road markings, does anyone else think that their current condition – worn away to near invisibility in too many places – represents a danger to drivers and pedestrians?

Meanwhile, back in the real world – sunak really is utterly inept.

HS2 will be chopped, there will be no (or very little) net new money for potholes or other road improvements, Northern Powerhouse will remain a soundbite only.

He really is a sad little bean-counter, isn’t he?

that horribly patronising and condescending tone of his…

But he dropped his ‘t’s just like one of those northern chappies. Next time he’ll be wearing a cloth cap. Well, cashmere cap.

Sunak would only really be bothered by potholes/ train links if they somehow got in the way of his RAF supplied Flying Uber… but they don’t so it’s just concerns for little people. Not him.

Cashmere?
Far too common for rish!
Vicuna, methinks.

Just when I though I couldn’t detest a tory leader more than our dear Bojo, along comes this absolute turd. I mean where do they get so much moral vacuum from? Never has this amount of selfishness been contained in so few with so much power.

He is literally pointing a flamethrower at the future and saying whatevs

https://www.threads.net/@mattgreencomedy/post/Cxvl7pWMEPi/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Cashmere?
Far too common for rish!

Cashmere is probably just what he’s called his private lagoon in the Caymans, after realising that lake Windermere wasn’t for sale.

Now being announced that he is going to restrict councils ability to have 20mph limits, ltz etc etc

He really is a shill for fossil fuels

Still a c**t

Bus lanes, eh? Stopping them has to be the priority of any common sense government.

😔

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/28/rishi-sunak-expected-to-limit-powers-of-councils-in-england-to-curb-car-use-20mph-speed-limit-traffic-camera-fines

He’s expected to come out against the 15-minute cities concept later on today as well.

He’ll have a slot on GB News before long, full on conspiracy theory shite alongside Neil Oliver.

The guy is getting increasingly dangerous now, this is full on scorched earth stuff. Wreck everything, leave Labour with a total mess they’ll be unable to sort out then blame them for everything.

18-24 voting intention is pretty clear. Extending vote to 16 or 17 year olds would take it further I assume (ie bring more voters on this split in)

LAB: 69%

CON: 1%

LDM: 9%

RFM: 1%

GRN: 11%

SNP: 6%

Elsewhere:

when asked about the behaviours of Dorries, Truss, etc. – ‘I’m not focused on the past, my focus is on the future’

And shortly after, on whether HS2 is going to be scrapped ‘I’m not speculating on future things’

I was thinking exactly the same thing @crazy-legs.

Between him and Cruella, it’s like they asked the GB News viewers for a wish list

It’s just total desperation from them now, but they can still do an awful lot of damage in the 14-15 months they’ve potentially got left.

They seem absolutely intent on turning back the clock on decades of hard won social and environmental progress

I suspect the party conference next week will be an exercise in competitive far right lunacy

IMO its two things.  Bolstering their core support to prevent wipeout and taking away any attraction the core vote has for far right parties by taking the far right policies.  they are afraid of an attack from Farage and co from the right

I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing? Not surprised about the 1% for tory as that is all they have seen in their lifetimes really so why would they vote for more of that.

As always, disappointing to see such low Green numbers as they are the only progressive party out of all the choices.

CON: 1%

Well, there’s something for Sunak and his “long term solutions for a brighter future”. Younger voters reject his solutions and want a brighter future without the Tories in it.

taking away any attraction the core vote has for far right parties by taking the far right policies.

That’s what lead us to Brexit – the Conservative Party moving further and further right to basically become UKIP because they were terrified of UKIP’s populist policies taking votes from them.

And the far right are catastrophically stupid and dangerous people.

trash the planet bounce was short lived

What’s the point in being a populist who’s unpopular?

I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing

The same as the appeal for most people, I suppose… how can my vote be most effectively be used to get rid of the Tories?

There’s a lot of young, politically active Labour Party members getting things done at local level though. Our local Labour councillor who’s a great bloke and is proving incredibly effective at getting some great stuff done, is 24.

This is where the next crop of Labour MPs are going to come from

I dread to think, though can readily picture, the kind of 24 year old attracted to the present Tory party

Just when I though I couldn’t detest a tory leader more than our dear Bojo, along comes this absolute turd.

Sunak really does make stomach churn – he’s a vacuous self-serving out of touch right wing Kunt of the highest order, only really beaten by Truss (Braverman is just utterly pathetic in her attempts to run round the place looking hard like the pathetic schoolyard bully she is).

UTTERLY ODIOUS THE LOT OF THEM.

He gets worse by the day. He is worse than Johnson.

This latest pro motorist stuff is pathetic.

Talking about “management of roads” in the same breath as patching potholes!

Banning 20mph speed limits.

Banning ANPR cameras.

In one way it’s a good thing, as I think it’s more nails in their coffins.

I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing? Not surprised about the 1% for tory as that is all they have seen in their lifetimes really so why would they vote for more of that.

I doubt it’s anything much more complicated than: “What’s the opposite of the Tories (that I hate)? Ah, Labour. OK, I’ll vote for them.” I don’t think there’s any particular reason to believe the 18-24s have any more nuanced view of politics than any other age group, just that they are starting from a different position.

I suspect the party conference next week will be an exercise in competitive far right lunacy

Yep – most of Braverman’s stuff is relatively easy to counter because most of it is illegal or at least borderline so the lawyers can just tell her she’s an idiot and can’t do that. Although I fully expect an upgrade to the Rwanda policy where the flight is on a large bomber and they just open the bomb bay doors somewhere over the Bay of Biscay – I’m sure that’ll go down well with the anti-immigrant lot.

Sunak though has the ability to do a lot of damage to local authorities in a very short time. They’ve already had to go through onerous processes to use ANPR cameras, enforce parking etc locally, they’ve already been told to manage their own traffic and air pollution issues (God forbid a tangible centralised policy should be published…) and they face all that being taken back off them.

as Sunak once again ignores the question he’s actually been asked and starts spouting his usual utter bollocks in that horribly patronising and condescending tone of his

The weird things about the whole “we might cancel HS2 to Manchester” bit of a mess was that it was briefed to the media by No10 at the beginning of the week. This was their own doing, they are the direct cause of making Rishi look and sound like a duplicitous shit.

Owen Jones can be a bit of a dick sometimes (though his books are good), but he’s absolutely on the money in todays Guardian with this article

Whether or not Suella Braverman becomes the next Tory leader, her extreme ideas rule the party

And it also answers the question I was pondering about her speech… it would have been signed off by number ten, so we can only assume that that cloud of toxic guff is now actually the official government stance

This was their own doing, they are the direct cause of making Rishi look and sound like a duplicitous shit.

To be fair, they’ve not managed to hide it, so might as well embrace it!

I wonder what the 18-24s are seeing in Labour that I am missing?

I think despite what most politicians of either stripe will tell you, most GE come down to either “more of the same” or “time for a change” I think everybody has come to the conclusion that it’s definitely time for a change. Labour (of course) will hail it as the result of their pledges and manifestos, but the vast majority of folks probably wouldn’t know either way which policy came from which party and don’t particularly care

The weird things about the whole “we might cancel HS2 to Manchester” bit of a mess was that it was briefed to the media by No10 at the beginning of the week.

‘Kite-flying’ was something Cummings used to do all the time to see how a potential policy went down, then either go ahead with it or row back, depending on the reaction

Rishi and the people around him are so stupid that they’re ‘kite-flying’ a policy that is clearly already decided and set in stone

They can’t even get that right and now spend their time ineffectively trying to deflect questions about a policy they themselves (unofficially) made public. Idiots!

most of Braverman’s stuff is relatively easy to counter because most of it is illegal

No-one GAS about “laws” and “facts” in this government.

I dread to think, though can readily picture, the kind of 24 year old attracted to the present Tory party

At the grammar school I went to in late 80s (tory party no better than now) there were loads of 16-18 year old tories – they were **** awful people.

Somewhat unsurprisingly, the northern comp I went to at the same time, which included a large intake of (now unemployed) miners kids, didn’t have any. Declaring support of the Tory party (not that I think for a second anyone did) would have had you in line for one almighty kicking.

I hope the Tories enjoyed their brief Brexit and Corbyn induced dalliance in these areas as they’ll all be out this time and they know it

18-24 voting intention is pretty clear. Extending vote to 16 or 17 year olds would take it further I assume (ie bring more voters on this split in)

LAB: 69%

CON: 1%

LDM: 9%

RFM: 1%

GRN: 11%

SNP: 6%

But as we all know the young vote is very small compared to the pensioners. Hopefully this time they will come out and vote, learning the lesson of the Brexit vote, but it’s not a given.

This latest pro motorist stuff is pathetic.

Talking about “management of roads” in the same breath as patching potholes!

Banning 20mph speed limits.

Banning ANPR cameras.

In one way it’s a good thing, as I think it’s more nails in their coffins.

It’s going down really well with the users of places like Pistonheads and, surprisingly, Mumsnet. We’d be absolutely fools if we were to think that the Tories are finished at the next election, they’ve stacked the system in their favour and know what buttons to press and when to get the result they want. Don’t forget they’ve still got 12 months or so to see what works and what doesn’t before they have to call a General Election.

Don’t ever underestimate the stupidity and short-mindedness of the general public.

Don’t ever underestimate the stupidity and short-mindedness of the general public

This.

Remember labour need a lead of 10% or so just for parity in seats.  I think the odds of labour having a working majority are not great.

Labours problem is that the policy positions they have taken to reclaim the red wall is completly offputtig in other parts of the country.  Also the refusal to work with other parties will cost them.

Don’t ever underestimate the stupidity and short-mindedness of the general public

While this is true, don’t forget that all these new ‘Red Wall’ Tories are sat on paper-thin majorities.

If, as trailed, Rishi announces these measures on Monday then it’ll be interesting to see the reaction he gets from Councils (Tory as well as labour) and the likes of the Police Federation. I imagine it’ll got down like a cup of cold sick with all of them

Populism is ok when your proposals are popular with a majority, when its just elderly racists, not so much

Everything any of them says now has the stench of utter desperation all over it

Also the refusal to work with other parties will cost them.

That’ll be out of the window in milliseconds in the event of them not having a working majority