- RIP Tony Benn
ninfan – Member
You mean ‘Thanks to Conservative minster Julian Amory for the ‘no get-out’ clause he negotiated with the French’?
Tony tried to cancel it….. if it went over budget
a tacit agreement that if a ceiling of pounds 600m in development costs was exceeded Concorde could be terminated.
which sounds perfectly sensible to me-
you should try reading your own links properly ninfan
anyway RIP, if I smoked a pipe id be packing one for Tony!Posted 5 years agoteamhurtmoreMember
For those who subscribe, there is a touching if rather sad piece reviewing his diaries back in October last year in the FT
Quite thought provoking like the man himself.
On Mrs T, the article notes his “reluctant” admiration in the words, she was a “political signpost, not a weather vane.” Too many weather vanes these days.Posted 5 years agoIHNMember
I just think it’s a bit strange/disingenuous to mention it without any kind of context.
Fair enough, I thought I had; it was within the context of modern politicians not really believing in anything whereas Mrs T at least did. I took it as read that folks would know that he didn’t agree with her beliefs…Posted 5 years agoMoreCashThanDashSubscriber
I never agreed with his politics, but respected the way he stuck to his principles. A very clever and classy guy, from an age when politics was about beliefs and not personalities.
If only the current generation of halfwits were half the man (or woman) that he wad.Posted 5 years ago
‘Well, I don’t believe you should attack people personally,’ he says. ‘My father taught me that. Democracy is about competing opinion, but you don’t have to be nasty about it. The personality side of things switches me off completely. I stopped reading the papers when they were full of all these personal attacks on Gordon Brown. What matters is what is done, not who does it.’
Thus he could respect Thatcher. I doubt he admired her tbh, but we’d just be guessing. He’s said plenty about her over the years, but he’s never been anything but impeccably polite.Posted 5 years agokonabunnyMember
The only politician to keep his integrity with Ali G.
I can’t play the video but I seem to remember he was the only one that took Ali G to task for his sexist comments? It seems silly but I think that was a significant moment: it showed that he wasn’t going to let it go unchallenged – and compare that to all the other people who were interested in getting their fizzog on the gogglebox.Posted 5 years agoEdukatorMember
Whilst I always found Sir Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn entertaining to listen to and felt his heart was in the right place, I couldn’t help feeling the his presence did nothing for whatever cause he was fighting. A peer giving up his peerage to become a left-wing politician was never going to gain popular acceptance in the class-led political battles of the sixties and seventies. Even when he laudably lent his pacifist voice to the anti-gulf war movement I couldn’t help thinking that war was then inevitable.
As for RIP. He was always in favour of peace but I hope there are some good intellectual sparring partners in heaven to get him fired up, I suspect many of his opponents ended up in the other place.Posted 5 years agotiggs121Member
Proper politician, genuine man of and for the people, spoke his mind, didn’t change his beliefs for popularity, oratory genius, easy to listen to and understand, never ducked a question or issue, TOP MAN!
One of the saddest days for this country.
I wonder he made of this posh 6th form Etonian social club that we are currently saddled with? Not much I expect!
RIP fella.Posted 5 years agosurroundedbyhillsSubscriber
You know your kids are always within earshot: This morning I turned up the radio when it reported Benn had died and I must have made a sad face my daughter (11yo) said “is that Tony Blair?” I made another face and said “no” and she asked “do you wish Tony Blair was dead then?”
“Well….” I replied.
Who is Benn’s spiritual successor then? George Galloway?!Posted 5 years agototalshellSubscriber
desperately sad news we have lost a decent honest human being who lived what he believed. some of the stuff may have been bonkers but he believed in it didnt change his views because the wind changed direction or to suit personal ambition. i m tony benn i m a socialist every one knew that his opinion was considered and carried conviction.
a true giant of british politics cannot imagine saying that about anyone else alive today.. RIPPosted 5 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
Unexpected musical collaborations, Mull Historical Society and Tony Benn…
“We the people” they all sayPosted 5 years ago
But do they treat us thus?
Or are we units in a game they play
Men, Women, Black and White
Rich, Poor, Young, Old, Straight or Gay
Defined and safely filed away
For Pollsters, Salesmen and MPs
To be bought or bribed to make them rich
Or Enemies who must be killed
People are made of flesh and blood
with hearts and minds and hopes
and fears, and all just want a Life
Which we must nurture to survive.
We have the power to end the world
We have the power to save the world
The Choice is ours: It is a Moral Choice
To work together in both Peace and Love
We must break Free and be ourselves
There lies the hope for all the human race.
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