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  • loddrik
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12751227

    His albums were always on around the house when I was a kid.

    colnagokid
    Member

    ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

    Elfinsafety
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    Jeeze, that’s very sad. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

    RIP.

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ZDPMwrPDM[/video]

    Elfinsafety
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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOjZKDoo08[/video]

    Premier Icon muggomagic
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    my favourite, not one for the tory boys

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24JKAGOQA2M[/video]

    Premier Icon scaredypants
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    alleged drug dealer dies during police raid

    every death’s sad, and all but … ๐Ÿ˜

    sweepy
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    The Police always had it in for him, always giving him ‘producers’ and what-not ๐Ÿ™‚
    RIP him, I liked his songs

    scottidog
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    alleged drug dealer dies during police raid

    every death’s sad, and all but …

    he has been murdered by the state, I’d say that’s pretty sad.

    Premier Icon curtisthecat
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    Sorry to hear this! RIP

    don simon
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    scaredypants – Member

    alleged drug dealer dies during police raid

    every death’s sad, and all but …
    Have to fall in with scaredypants on this one. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ Shouldn’t be celebrating the life of an alleged drug dealer…

    How much travel would people recommend for the puritans when they finally decide to descend from the moral high ground?

    Alleged , it says alleged. But yiu’ve judged him already. Hmm wonder which stereotype you are calling on…

    loddrik
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    scaredypants – Member
    alleged drug dealer dies during police raid
    every death’s sad, and all but …

    Have to fall in with scaredypants on this one. Shouldn’t be celebrating the life of an alleged drug dealer…

    Here we go again, I know a fair few ‘drug dealers’ and used to be one once upon a time myself. Regardless of people’s chosen vocation, they are still human beings. And whilst middle England may find the notion of ‘drug dealing’ abhorrent, those of us who grew up in places like Liverpool, London & Glasgow etc, know that it’s a fact of life and just a job, a way to get out of having nothing in a place where deprivation and criminality is generational and endemic. I was all too familiar with that world, as was Smiley, no shame in that where we come from, just doing what is necessary…

    nickf
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    just doing what is necessary

    Sorry Loddrik, but I can’t let that go unchallenged. My father came from a (literally) dirt-poor background and managed to get out without resorting to crime of any sort. There are huge numbers of people who could tell similar stories.

    You may feel you had few options, and you may well be right, but necessary? Hardly.

    oldgit
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    I think to many the fact he bought happiness to people with his songs and possibly missery to others with his drugs cancels one and other out.
    Didn’t know the man, could have been good and then again might have not
    Sad either way

    loddrik
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    No, I did have options. But up here there are huge numbers of kids up here whose dads and granddads are unemployed and have grown up around and been involved criminality, all of their peers are in the same boat, in one of the most deprived cities in Europe, with no jobs and nothing to aspire to. Its not a case of simply turn away from it, it’s all that they know. Hooray for your dad, he must be wonderful, but when you come from places like Norris green, croxteth, Peckham, glasgows east end etc, opportunities aren’t really there, and everyone around you is the doing the same thing, that’s what you’re gonna end up doing.

    .Besides. I’m not reading stories in the Mail about the ‘misery’ that cocaine causes

    Premier Icon scaredypants
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    Being a “drug dealer” is a matter of conscience, I guess

    As is whether or not to grieve their passing. Course, I didn’t know him like you did loddrik.

    loddrik
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    Pretty sure I didn’t mention anything about grief…

    Besides, if we want a debate on the rights and wrongs of selling drugs, maybe we should do it on another thread…

    konabunny
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    …like the one a couple of days ago.

    Stabbed himself to death? That’s “remarkable”.

    I hope we can expect a decent investigation from the IPCC.

    ernie_lynch
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    Sounds like he was killed by himself

    Because the article says he died from self-inflicted wounds ? If this is true, it would be quite remarkable I reckon. People have usually thought quite a long time about suicide before they go ahead and do it. You would have thought that he had other things on his mind, and that he was somewhat distracted, when the police turned up to arrest him – for him to think “this is a good time to commit the suicide I’ve been thinking of doing”.

    On a completely pointless trivia note – the incident occurred up the road from me and I was in fact driving down his road on Sunday.

    clubber
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    No because the other articles I read had a bit more detail and suggest that the police allowed him to go and make a cup of tea at which point he stabbed himself.

    No one can be certain of the truth just from reading media reports. I just think it’s stupid to automatically assume that the police stabbed him (a pretty messy crime that forensics would likely be able to see through) when the simple explanation that he killed himself is more plausible. All IMO of course.

    joolsburger
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    I wonder how many of those who berate drugs are off to the pub/off licence sometime this week to get their fix. I’m pretty convinced that the biggest problem drugs present are by-products of prohibition.

    It’s a shame he died must be a pretty bad situation to kill yourself by stabbing.

    konabunny
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    I assume (based on thin air) that the substance of the drug supply allegations will come out in the coming months – because OB/CPS will want to show what a naughty person he was and/or because his co-accused’s trial (he was on conspiracy charges – I’m assuming that there must have been co-conspirators who will still be prosecuted).

    Dobbo
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    I assume (based on thin air) that the substance of the drug supply allegations will come out in the coming months – because OB/CPS will want to show what a naughty person he was and/or because his co-accused’s trial (he was on conspiracy charges – I’m assuming that there must have been co-conspirators who will still be prosecuted).

    I totally agree, the way these police thugs smashed into his house and stabbed him to death is a total disgrace, there’s no way he had any involvement with supplying drugs or has ever done anything wrong.
    The police force needs disbanding to prevent any more of these atrocities and the government should be dissolved because they are ultimately responsible for the death of Smiley. Mr Cultures blood is on Cameron’s hands.

    clubber
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    You know, Dobbo, if your post had been by some other STW posters, I’d have taken that as serious ๐Ÿ˜‰

    konabunny
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    Dobbo: what exactly in my post do you object to?

    (Apart from my inability to proofread which meant that the words “will take place” are missing from between the closing parenthesis and the full stop. Shocking).

    don simon
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    Here we go again, I know a fair few ‘drug dealers’ and used to be one once upon a time myself. Regardless of people’s chosen vocation, they are still human beings. And whilst middle England may find the notion of ‘drug dealing’ abhorrent, those of us who grew up in places like Liverpool, London & Glasgow etc, know that it’s a fact of life and just a job, a way to get out of having nothing in a place where deprivation and criminality is generational and endemic. I was all too familiar with that world, as was Smiley, no shame in that where we come from, just doing what is necessary…

    My apologies, I hadn’t realised that drug dealing was both legally and morally acceptable and that this was simply a troll.

    allthepies
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    Smiley who ?

    loddrik – Member

    Here we go again, I know a fair few ‘drug dealers’ and used to be one once upon a time myself. Regardless of people’s chosen vocation, they are still human beings. And whilst middle England may find the notion of ‘drug dealing’ abhorrent, those of us who grew up in places like Liverpool, London & Glasgow etc, know that it’s a fact of life and just a job, a way to get out of having nothing in a place where deprivation and criminality is generational and endemic. I was all too familiar with that world, as was Smiley, no shame in that where we come from, just doing what is necessary…

    You are 50 Cent and I claim my five pound note!

    Listen here, I was brought up in a cul-de-sac, there really was only one way out.

    don simon
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    Listen here, I was brought up in a cul-de-sac, there really was only one way out.

    Nah! Kick the fence in, nick your neighour’s car and a wad of cash before kicking the sh1t out of him and drive through enveryone’s back gardens would also be seen as perfectly acceptable too.

    samuri
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    I was in fact driving down his road on Sunday.

    Telling us doesn’t corroborate your alibi you know Ernie.

    yunki
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    My apologies, I hadn’t realised that drug dealing was both legally and morally acceptable and that this was simply a troll.

    on the morality bit.. I think drug dealing is only frowned upon by those who follow a certain moral compass..

    what’s acceptable to hardworking joe bloggs who likes a bevvy and beats his wife.. is going to be different to hardworking joe bloggs who’s morality is a hangover from his churchgoing ancestors.. is going to be different from underclass joe bloggs who looks down his nose at the hardworking consumerist sheeple next door.. is going to be different to the hardworking middle england pot-smoking finance manager.. is going to be different to.. ad nauseum.. do you people never get out..?

    just because your moral compass is the same as the law and the national press.. doesn’t automatically make it absolutely correct..

    rip smiley.. loved your music as a kid and will be digging some out later to enjoy on this beautiful sunny day..

    Where this thread has gone

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    don simon
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    yunki, dear yunki, I’m not sure that I can accept your explanation.

    oldgit
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    You are 50 Cent and I claim my five pound note!

    I wouldn’t, it’s probably been up his nose ๐Ÿ˜‰

    yossarian
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    What did you deal loddrik?

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