Right. Who Wants A Fight!
iolo – Member
I don’t find the Gif by Northwind so funny.
Looks like a fat bully throwing a small thin kid about.
Not my idea of fun watching that.
Yeah, sorry, it’s a video that was pretty much everywhere a while back so I didn’t bother to link the full thing, probably should have.Posted 4 years ago
Are martial arts actually any good in a fight?
Depends on the martial art, depends on what you’re expecting to do. I currently know about 190 different techniques, but most of them aren’t ones you’d use directly in a fight. What they are very useful for is learning how the body moves and reacts, where pressure points are, and where joints do and don’t like to go. And what practicing them is good for is getting fast at doing them instinctively.
In proper sparring, I find I only really use variations of a few techniques – arm bars of various types, pressure point strikes, things I know I can get to work quickly and without faffing about.
Same with forms – people wonder why we bother with these stylised set routines, but again you aren’t training the form as such, you’re training balance, stance, fast movement, and certain sequences of movements that are very useful to know instinctively.Posted 4 years agoorganic355Member
Are martial arts actually any good in a fight?
Sport martial arts not really, like sport karate and the taekwondo which was paraded out for he Olympics.
When you drill the real techniques, kata and applications behind them then yes.
Same with forms – people wonder why we bother with these stylised set routines, but again you aren’t training the form as such, you’re training balance, stance, fast movement, and certain sequences of movements that are very useful to know instinctively.
Once a form has been learned it must be practiced repeatedly until it can be applied in an emergency, for knowledge of just the sequence of a form in karate is useless. Gichin Funakoshi (shotokan)
Karate kata should always be practiced with its practical use in mind. Itsou (shorin ryu)
You may train for a long, long time, but if you merely move your hands and feet and jump up and down down like a puppet, learning karate is not very different from learning to dance. You will have never reached the heart of the matter; you will have failed to grasp the quintessence of karate-do. Gichin Funakoshi (shotokan)Posted 4 years agorogerthecatMember
Most street fights end up being a quite short brawl, the martial arts that contain some form of grappling and close quarters techniques are more useful.
To use big spinning kicks etc you need to be very good because if you miss there’s plenty of time for the other person to attack whilst you’re gracefully pirouetting.Posted 4 years ago
To use big spinning kicks etc you need to be very good because if you miss there’s plenty of time for the other person to attack whilst you’re gracefully pirouetting.
Yup – one of the best training sessions I’ve had was with Bill “Superfoot” Wallace, and he’s all about front-leg kicks – no faffing about, no unnecessary movements, nothing to indicate to your opponent.Posted 4 years agosicklilpuppyMember
Are martial arts actually any good in a fight?Posted 4 years ago
was a doorman for 18 years, having a 2nd dan in aikido helped on a few occasions. in general though a lot of people who practice martial arts think they are a lot better than they actually are,m and often get into more trouble.loddrikMember
Been in a few fights with some pretty decent martial artists in my youth (20’s) in Ibiza mainly, they seem to start with all the posing etc and try and land kicks etc, I just ran through all that nonsense grabbed them round the waist and drove them back and off balance then it was pretty much game over. I’m sure if they were good at wrestling or some sort of floor based martial art etc it’d have been different. But karate and kickboxing etc aren’t much use once on the floor when it was biting face or smashing head on floor time. I might add that that was a long time ago and I’m a nice guy nowadays, I was pretty unpleasant at times back then. 😯Posted 4 years agoyossarianMember
My security team at work use a few very well rehearsed and repeated techniques for defence and submission/pining. We use mainly aikido techniques and some pressure point stuff. Also a little Krav Maga if its really getting stupid.
From experience we avoid all the big swirly kicking stuff by getting in close, applying a grip and losing them their balance and then putting some pressure on a few joints. Calms big men down quite quickly.Posted 4 years agoyossarianMember
Large FE college in a quiet corner of England.
Edit: I realise how ridiculous that looks but over the last few years we’ve had a number of incidents where people have needed putting down quickly before they could seriously damage others. A few well drilled MA techniques assists us in doing that. Aikido pins are usually very effective and very safe for the recipient.Posted 4 years agopiemonsterMember
*wonders where yossarian works*
There are times Jamie when I wonder if you work at all. Where do you find the time for your parish work?
There are also time when I feel like placing my hand on you knee and saying “dear Jamie, you spend too much time on the Internet. Go outside and hug a tree. But not people you don’t know, they get funny about that”
*please not, my preconceptions are not statements of SCIENCE FACTS*Posted 4 years agoorganic355Member
loddrik – Member
… But karate and kickboxing etc aren’t much use once on the floor ….
Depends on the type of Karate. No actually not the type, I mean the teacher. I practice Shotokan Karate which is seen by most as punching and kicking, as it is a striking art, but if youve got a good teacher you will find the forms/katas include many many throws and ground fighting techniques.
Typical shotokan karate Schools are based upon sport karate bouncing back and forwards trying to score points. Like this
Not very useful for self defense IMO
While my club practices shotokan karate based on practical applications such as this
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWGFFBq19M[/video]Posted 4 years ago
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