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  • stompy
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    Anyone have any idea how much it would cost to have a full sus frame stripped and then re powder coated (one colour)???

    Cheers

    geetee1972
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    Mine cost £170 including buying and applying new transfers, removing the headset and carriage to and from Argos.

    stompy
    Member

    ouch……… 😯

    geetee1972
    Member

    Yeah but there’s at least £40 of extra cost in there over and above the respray. Have a looks at http://www.argoscycles.co.uk they have a price list. Basic service one colour for a two-part frame is only £130. Besides they do a very good job. If I knew how to post pictures I could show you an example of my pearl white spesh enduro with red graphics.

    Premier Icon Mr Agreeable
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    Argos are specialist frame builders and painters and they’re definitely the place to send your frame if money is no object, or if it needs any work doing to it. However if you just want a hard-wearing basic respray and you’re willing to collect and deliver, then ring round your local powder coating firms and you should be able to find one who’ll do it for £30-50.

    Premier Icon takisawa2
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    £170…!!!
    I had a car done for less than that once.

    Yellow pages > find local powder coater’s > ask for info on stripping prior to them powdering > post ad on here for scrap headset cups & bb cups > strip bike > take to affore mentioned powderers > strip > insert cups > powder.

    Also ask them about borrowing some hi-temp masking tape so you can mask off pivots yourself.

    £170 is a bit steep. IMO of course but I’m tight/skint etc.

    nodrog2
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    Local places usually charge about £25-30 per item, so a full sus would normally cost £50-60. They won’t strip the bike for you though. You’ll have to do that yourself or get the LBS to do it which will add another £50-100 (if you want them to strip and rebuild it for you). Always best to check that a local powder coater has done bikes before. Some powder coat places are better than others.

    If going the local route then put some old headset cups and BB cups in the frame. Also put bolts in any threaded areas such as linkage/bearing holes. Maybe put a seatpost shim in the frame as well. The powder coating process really does leave a lot of residue that bungs holes/threads up.

    stompy
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    Cheers chaps/lass’s

    I agree wit most of that over £100 is abit steep, not sure my frame is worth that……. but i love her and she needs some new make up.

    I did consider respraying myself (I’m a professional furniture designer/maker and have proper hvlp and grav fed spray kit) just not sure about spraying Aluminium (used to my lovely wood)!!! I’ve heard car primer and catalised vehicle paint gives a decent finish when done right.

    Anyone done it themselves???

    pinches
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    i work as a painter in the automotive trade. you will need to use an “Etch” primer on bare aluminium first, then a normal primer followed by top coat. the top coat will depend on what type of “automotive” paint you’ve got your hands on. water based base coat will need a clear 2k lacquer over it, 2k solid colour you paint straight on to a gloss finish and 2k metallic will be a 2k base with 2k lacquer over it.

    i’ve painted a range of frames for people, single seat race cars, rally cars,pretty much everything.

    trailmoggy
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    were abouts are you stompy?

    i got qouted £25-30 at a local powder coaters in Wigan and they came highly recomended and do a top job

    stompy
    Member

    Right, so a fairly complicated process…….

    Pinches – Do you work self employed or for a company??? either way how much do you think it would cost to recolour a two part full suss frame?? in matt black?? or do you think it’d be safer just to go down the strip myself an have powder coated route (£25ish doesn’t sound to bad to me)

    Cheers for your help mate

    Premier Icon superdale
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    Stompy can highly recommend firm in birmingham who did my Moho Slix. Think it was £40 plus £5 because to strip off the existing powdercoating requires special treatment. All that is required is to place some bolts and large washers over the important pivots, and they will mask off the hs and bb.
    Can email you pics of mine and send you the details. Email in profile.
    Cheers…Alex

    stompy
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    I’m in Lincoln mate…….the centre of nowhere 😳

    stompy
    Member

    Yeh that’d be good if ya could Superdale…..

    I guess it all depends on which firm i choose, some i guess are more used to industrial parts and others do more ‘delicate’ work.

    One problem is that my frame is a 2002 Scott octane (she is[b] beautiful….) and has the open stem so I’d have to remove the whole headset and the seperate tubey bit….but thats a minor point.

    pinches
    Member

    i work freelance at the moment, i’m actually a product designer by trade. i use a friends booth and do bits and pieces for pocket money really.

    a 2 piece frame in matt black i would guess around £40-£60 maybe less because you wont need lacquer. what colour is the frame now? is it painted/powder coated?

    i personally would try and find yourself a local powder coaters. i know there is a place near me which charge about £30-£40 to have a full sus powdercoated. it can’t do any harm to have a peek on yell.com and have a ring round and ask

    stompy
    Member

    Cheers Pinches 😀 The frame is Gloss white factory painted at the mo…..

    nasher
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    All the powdercoaters that quoted that did not include the removing of the old paint…thats eems the expensive bit!!

    carlphillips
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    i had one done by local PC firm in army green he done it for a tenner as he had a M.O.D job on. it was a pretty good job

    Used both Argos and Orange now.
    Both were good, Argos probably nicked it though.
    You need to consider the likely faff of facing all your surfaces if you use a local opowder coaters – always better to take it out the box battle ready IMO!

    Premier Icon Teetosugars
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    Got me CX Bike done at Bob Jacksons… £100 for everything.. 7 week turn around for the respray 😕

    Just got my Hustler Powdercoated, cost me £40.. and a 4 day turn around…

    TBH, the powdercoating was spot on…

    I_Ache
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    Ooh Ooh another excuse to post a couple of pics of my bike!

    Had it powdercoated at a place in brum for £35 this included shot blasting the old anodising off and covering up all the pivot points bb thread and head tube. The bike has a lot of pivot point that they had to cover up about 10.

    I think its a great finish and have only found 2 flaws that are so small I have forgotten where they are!

    Not had anything faced I just got it home and started building.

    The place is however used to bikes and regularly does motorbike parts and frames. They are also a sponsor of the royal signals white helmets.

    HTH

    geetee1972
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    OK so my job wasn’t cheap – but how do you post pictures on this site so I can show you where the extra money went?

    I_Ache
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    you need your photos hosted at somewhere like flikr then you can link to them by using the image button at the top of the reply box and the image url.

    geetee1972
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    marionheck
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    Where did you get the red graphic made for the specialised? really like it, the bike looks great

    wysiwyg
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    ive heard some horror stories about frames being totally mullered when theyre blasted to remove the old paint, pitted needed major work? any similar stories on here, anyone confirm/deny?

    geetee1972
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    They were supplied by Argos – hence why the whole job cost so much.

    I_Ache
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    That does look nice I nearly went for a white and red theme with mine but got seduced by bearclaws sx. I will admit to having trouble sourcing some decals for mine you dont happen to know how much just the decals cost?

    I_Ache
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    Oh an because my last image was edited I will post another.

    Premier Icon Farticus
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    I had my 5 Spot done by Argos in a fantastic green. They did all the decals too, and it really was a lovely job. It was them or Bob Jackson. They protected all the pivots & faced everything properly too. But…they did leave a burr in the seat tube which has scored my Thomson post very badly.

    And…the finish is lovely but a tad fragile for proper use – I’ve already managed to chip it without much effort. So lots of copter tape required too.

    W

    forge197
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    my Prince Albert is due back today from Argos, will give initial reaction later, hope it’s on a pre 10am 🙂 For me it was Bob Jackson or Argos.

    JonEdwards
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    I’ve just had my Turner re-done by Argos in their 2-pack orange. Looks lovely. They masked off all the pivots very nicely and chased/face the BB. Seat tube was clean too.

    They charge (a pretty reasonable IMO) £30 for insured collection and delivery, and the knowledge that the job *will* be done well with an expensive frame gives a lot of peace of mind.

    I did look into powdercoating, as I agree that it’s a lot tougher than anything else, but there are very few coaters who have much experience at working with bikes. The colours are also pretty limited. (metallics are VERY rare)

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