Quite within my rights or just taking the p!ss?
I reckon it’d be taking the piss to go assuming it’d be fine.
If it’s allowed, you’re fine whether you ask or not.
If it’s not allowed, better to find out what the issues are (fuel card, insurance, breakdown) before you go rather than potentially find out on the way, and get bollocked when you get back.Posted 6 years agoianpinderMember
Personal fuel is personal fuel, it’s one of the benefits. However my friends fuel card does not work abroad, so fill up in dover and return home empty.
You’ll need to speak to fleet to get relevant paper work, you get a temporary v5 and insurance papers, I had to pay £11 for mine, I drovero the alps 3 times in the last 6 months and they can not say anything. My company also provided European breakdown, and I still get a hire car out there if anything goes wrong.Posted 6 years ago
If you worked for me, unemployment would go up tomorrow by one.
Basicly youre not asking your boss to pay for your holiday fuel, but just stealing it,also it would be very interesting if your boss found out and phoned the plod and said you didnt have permission to take it abroad, and then we have insurance and breakdown cover.
Driving with no insurance or invalid insurnce is a large fine and a ban sometimes, and also the sack.Posted 6 years ago
Bit harsh there m_f .
I don’t think so – the OP is clearly unsure of whether or not he should take such a liberty with his employer. His wife seems to be of the opinion he should just take what he can because I pay the tax on it so therefore it’s my god given right to go where I want and the firm to foot the bill. Now that might just come down to the language the OP has used (and not a fair reflection of what she actually said) but it sounds on this evidence pretty selfish.Posted 6 years ago
Reasonable personal use
Now IIRC, mine used to say that, but qualified it with a 12k example of reasonablePosted 6 years ago
Using it as a tour bus doesn’t make it unreasonable per se, if he’s a low user the rest of the year as opposed to another employee who uses it more day in, day outgeoffjSubscriber
If your paying all the relevant tax for personal use of the van, including the provision of fuel for private use, then it comes down to the agreement you have with your employer.
As uplink has said above, you need to consider this as part of your annual use, not in isolation.Posted 6 years ago
Driving to the alps and back is the equivalent of, what, five miles a day over the course of a year? Would you think you were taking the piss if you moved house three miles further away from work? Personal fuel is part of your salary package (and you get taxed to death on it).
As others have said, if it’s a company van then there may be other issues in taking it overseas; last time I looked at this for myself (at a previous company) the policy was simply that I’d to tell work so that they could notify the insurance company.Posted 6 years agomidlifecrashesSubscriber
Yes you’re getting a bit of a bonus here, but that’s the deal with personal mileage deals and vans. Aside from the tax, there’s usually a quid pro quo where the van driver will often set off early on jobs, without having to pick up a van from a depot before starting work, often antisocial hours etc. Is it because it is abroad? If an Aberdeen fella took the van to Cornwall, the distance would probably greater. (Are you in Aberdeen, prahan?)Posted 6 years agoprahranMember
I have a company van for work which I also use for personal use, including fuel. I pay the relevant tax on it. I’m driving to the Alps next month and I don’t know if I’m supposed to pay for my own fuel or put it through the company.
The wife reckons it’s all part of my benefits package, I pay the tax on it so therefore it’s my god given right to go where I want and the firm to foot the bill. I don’t want to take the p!ss though. Anyone else in a similar situation?Posted 6 years ago
So imagine youre a bos of a company, and your worker has use of a comapny van, he then takes the van out of the country, racking up many more miles than should have been done weekly, all at high speed and witha load inside.
So you have extra maintance costs , added fuel costs, and added insuirance costs idf somebnody makes a claim against the driver.
What would you do.Just say No.Posted 6 years agociderinsportMember
Don’t forget, you will also need the right to drive, on hire form thing.
If you don’t have it WITH YOU when driving abroad, the French police will arrest you till YOU can prove you are legally allowed to drive the vehicle 😯
Personally, I used to do the Dover trick too 😉 (fuel card restricted to the uk)
EDIT VE103 vehicle on hire cirtificate!Posted 6 years agoandylMember
We always used to go abroad in company cars but:
1. It was the only car we had so Dad was allowed to use it for any personal mileage including abroad. Dad had to go abroad with work anyway so sometimes flew, sometimes took the car over to mainland Europe, Ireland or Jersey so was covered for abroad anyway.
2. The fuel card only worked in the UK so as above he filled up at Dover and then was very frugal when we were away and we limped back to port.
3. Might be different rules with a van as it’s not a car that you could expect to use instead of buying a personal car. Also these days a lot of things have been clamped down on and companies are keeping better hold of their money.
I think you had better ask and obviously be prepared to pay your own fuel bills abroad.Posted 6 years agoprahranMember
OK, quick update for you all. I’ve had a word and the answer is yes, I can use the vehicle for personal use and for personal fuel use, even if it is abroad.
Oh and mastiles_fanylion –
Your wife doesn’t sound very nice on this evidence.
My wife is extremely nice, and as you can see, she was indeed correct on this question. I would ask that you make no further indirect comments about my wife in the future, or you’ll leave me with no choice but to provide you with a knuckle sandwich. xPosted 6 years ago
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