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  • Probability
  • imnotverygood
    Full Member

    I was always useless at maths.
    I have 1000 songs on my playlist. I randomly play 100 songs a month (this can include the song being played more than once).
    What is probability that I will not play one particular song at all during the year?

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    Nil, because the shuffling algorithm isn’t really random

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    Just 3 weeks ago, when sitting maths exam at uni, I could have gave you an answer.

    It’s now gone.

    ‘S how I roll.

    Smudger666
    Full Member

    If the algorithm is truly random, then you have a 90% chance of not playing it each month.

    0.9 x 0.9 x 0.9 twelve times.= 0.3 ish so 30% chance of not playing it in a year.

    matt_bl
    Free Member

    Also nil if the particular track is something your eight year old daughter put on there.

    Matt

    matt_bl
    Free Member

    It’s higher than that smudger as you could play the same track multiple times each month. My guess is .999 times .999, 100 times, then multiply by twelve for each month.

    Matt

    nicko74
    Full Member

    In theory, the chances of a track not being played in a month is 9/10.
    The chances of a track not being played in 12 months is 9/10^ 12, or about 28%, apparently.

    Assuming the shuffle is entirely random, of course.

    paulhaycraft
    Full Member

    Smudger, You’re assuming it plays 100 different songs per month. Surely it’s 0.999 per play rather than 0.9 per month…

    In fact, I think the months are irrelevant. It’s 1200 random songs per year so 0.999^1200 = 30.1%

    Might be wrong though….

    Smudger666
    Full Member

    Yup – missed the bit that they can be repeated in a month.

    kneed
    Full Member

    If I remember correctly:
    When sample n times from the set {1,…,x}, then the expected number of unique values is x[1−(1−1/x)^n]

    In one month the number of unique songs should be 95.207852886. So 4.8ish repeats.

    In 12 months I think: 698.986570907 unique songs – 302 ish repeats.

    I’m too old for this stuff!

    #Edit – the ‘power of n’ in the formula got lost

    Rubber_Buccaneer
    Full Member

    In fact, I think the months are irrelevant. It’s 1200 random songs per year so 0.999^1200 = 30.1%

    Gets my vote

    GlennQuagmire
    Free Member

    What is probability that I will not play one particular song at all during the year?

    Answer = unlikely.

    But it’s also possible the same song could repeatedly play non-stop for the next year.

    Just don’t walk down Easy Street.

    pondo
    Full Member

    If this is a Spotify playlist, my experience suggests that it is considerably more likely to play songs at the end of your playlist than at the beginning. I haven’t heard some of the ones near the start for ages.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Nil, because the shuffling algorithm isn’t really random

    None, because Spotify’s shuffling algorithm doesn’t work properly.

    Just don’t walk down Easy Street.

    *Shoots Glenn with crossbow*

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