Home Forums News Privateer Bikes finally launch Gen 2 range and pre-sales

Viewing 30 posts - 41 through 70 (of 70 total)
  • Privateer Bikes finally launch Gen 2 range and pre-sales
  • halifaxpete
    Full Member

    Sure it’ll ride well and has more adjustability than the gen1, Not as nice looking though for sure, The weights never bothered me I regularly do 3000ft+ rides round the calder valley on my 141, it doesn’t feel heavy on the move IMO

    droplinked
    Full Member

    That’s a top tube only a mother could love

    markspark
    Free Member

    Think we’d all appreciate a higher stack height but there’s got to be a better way than bending the top and down tube to achieve it. And all that progression, gonna have to run some serious spring rate in the fork to try and balance it out

    WildHunter2009
    Full Member

    I was eagerly awaiting this as the 141 is/was on my shortlist for first full suss in a long time. Def would need to see in the flesh now as the the pictures are a bit gopping. I thought the gen 1 was a good looking bike but these urgh. People seem to love Ibis, Niners and Pivots though so it probs won’t matter.

    2
    ditch_jockey
    Full Member

    I’m sure most people riding it could do with losing 5 or 6 lbs themselves…

    Really hope you’re not part of their marketing team 😂

    Rubber_Buccaneer
    Full Member

    Are the bends in the tubes not for practical reasons? Downtube has to allow clearance for the wheel then the top tube follows suit to maintain space for a bottle inside the triangle? I certainly appreciate being able to fit a bottle cage and one of those tool/tube things.

    mashr
    Full Member

    A reasonable question… but they don’t seem to have gained much over the gen1 which was already good for bottle space. Yes it looks like everyone now has room for a wee enduro bag though.
    The bendy tubes would probably have gotten an easier ride if they hadn’t also increased the weight, price and progression curve so much

    As a reminder:

    chakaping
    Full Member

    I listened to the Blister podcast with the designer and the bike sounded awesome, he was really across all the detail.

    Didn’t expect it to get such a hostile reception, and I don’t think the pinkbike review with the XL frame looking so awkward has helped. The medium ones look much more acceptable IMO.

    Still too heavy for my requirements though.

    Rubber_Buccaneer
    Full Member

    Perhaps I’m looking at them more favourably because I have an E161 and think it is very well designed if a little rough and ready in some areas. Mind you, I got the E161 on that double discount deal which made it a similar price to the new 161

    1
    sv
    Full Member

    I think they look great, purposeful and great stance. Would happily buy one!

    chiefgrooveguru
    Full Member

    It seems that they’ve designed something that can be the ultimate privateer enduro race bike and also a bike park / uplift machine. So much geometry adjustment, a frame built to last rather than built down to a weight, progression to suit really gnarly riders on coils or big volume air shocks. Strong enough to take 200mm dual crown forks. Top tube bent to fit a bigger bottle.

    Frame weight is a weird thing because once you’re on a bike it’s very hard to detect. If anything, heavier frames (assuming all else is equal) feel better on rougher trails, which is part of the reason for enduro racers strapping all their tools/water to the frames nowadays. Heavy wheels and tyres do feel different (most prefer lighter) and draggy tyres feel bad when pedalling to everyone (but we accept a certain compromise for grip/damping downhill).

    I’m not fast enough or have gnarly enough local trails for the 161 but I hope those who suit it buy it because I bet it’s great, despite the looks!

    dc1988
    Full Member

    It might not be the prettiest bike but I don’t think it’s the ugliest either. I’d happily prioritise function over looks. It looks like you could fit a big bottle, small frame bag and strap a tube in the front triangle which I doubt would be the case without the kinks in the top and down tubes.

    cheers_drive
    Full Member

    I listened to the Blister podcast with the designer and the bike sounded awesome, he was really across all the detail.

    Haven’t listened to the podcast but the original wasn’t designed in house – Redburn Design did it. Sounds like they did it in house this time hence the different design direction.
    I’m normally on the side of function over form but the aesthetics are a step backwards.

    2
    poah
    Free Member

    That is one ugly fat ****

    1
    Aidy
    Free Member

    I occasionally cynically wonder if bikes are being made more and more unpedal-able to push people onto e-bikes. This feels a little too blatant.

    zerocool
    Free Member

    I loved the Gen 1 161, it looked good, rode well and was easy to service. It also wasn’t 40lb! The new one is ugly, hopefully rides well and weighs the same as a mid weight ebike.

    40lb, and then you need to add the weight of water bottle, tools, tubes and other random stuff.

    bitmuddytoday
    Free Member

    Anyone seen a frame weight? Be interested to know as I’ve had XL bikes with very similar travel, geo and parts…but 7-8lbs lighter. Maybe there’s a lb difference in tyres and shock. 40lbs is crackers. Can see why riders are choosing e-bikes if this is the way things are going.

    Interesting Privateer is getting so much negativity for the top tube. I agree, but don’t remember seeing others like Canyon or Niner taking such a beating in comments.

    weeksy
    Full Member

    4.6kg

    chakaping
    Full Member

    If it’s 4.6kg without the shock, that would explain the bike being over 40lbs.

    Got to begrudgingly admire them for going all in on the “weight doesn’t matter” thing.

    Is it basically a modern freeride bike, in terms of it’s ideal use case?

    Rubber_Buccaneer
    Full Member

    The 161 is sure built sturdy, if I were looking it would definitely be at the 141 but I’ve no idea how much different that is. I’ve always thought Privateer come up with some very solid build kits too, with my only reservation being the wheels.

    wheelsonfire1
    Full Member

    What the dickens is “forward thinking geometry” ?

    Pauly
    Full Member

    Something Mondraker came up with several years ago…

    RustyNissanPrairie
    Full Member

    Friend has a Mk1 161 in raw, bit weighty but rides well. This MK2 misses the mark completely.

    mashr
    Full Member

    One manipulation of the top tube later: https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/26239039

    Sadly doesn’t help the other issues

    nickc
    Full Member

    I looked at this press release on my mobile and wondered why they’d shot dark coloured bikes against a dark background with low lighting. Now I’ve had a chance to look at them on the desktop, I can see why.

     

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    As someone has posted above, even if it was heavy, the mk1s were great looking bikes – like longer, slacker Turner Burners which is a good thing!

    2
    chakaping
    Full Member

    I’m kind of repeating myself, but I can’t get my head around them presumably being aware of the previous bike’s reputation for being really good but a bit chonky – and then having a meeting and agreeing “let’s make the next one even heavier but not so good looking”.

    rootes1
    Full Member

    Think we’d all appreciate a higher stack height but there’s got to be a better way than bending the top and down tube to achieve it.


    @markspark

    RAAW manage it with straight tubes and achieving higher stacks heights.

     

     

    1
    privateerbikes
    Free Member

    @andybrad Hi sorry for the late reply on this. Our single-sided hardware uses just a single bolt head to tighten or remove each pivot bolt. So, rather than needing a second tool to hold a bolt still and prevent it from spinning, you can access and maintain bolts from just one side with a single tool. Hope that clears this up.

    privateerbikes
    Free Member

    @sv It’s Great to hear your thoughts on Gen 2; we’re stoked about it, too!

Viewing 30 posts - 41 through 70 (of 70 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.