As much as I find the police union(s) constant complaining annoying this really irks me. Yet again the newer, younger recruits get hit with the cuts and will have to pay for everyone else’s nice big public sector pensions while getting paid much less in real terms and having to contribute much more for their own pensions.
Graduate starting salaries seem to have dropped in real terms a bit over the last couple of years (excluding Oil and financial services). When I was looking £16,500 – £22,000 was the norm.Posted 5 years agoMunqe-chickMember
Police officers don’t get housing allowance and haven’t for years. They don’t get free travel unless arranged locally but in my force we only get free travel if on duty in uniform.
Pension has significantly changed have to pay 13.1% in and work for 35 years to get an average final.
hours are insane ….. don’t even get me started on that one!
yes there is over time, but hey what’s that got to do with it? often have to work it when you don’t want to.
So put simply IMO it’s disgraceful the salary drop.Posted 5 years ago
This ended with the last round of changes in 2007.
Fair enough – it was a genuine question. When I was a 16 yr old it was either a life in Plod or College to do an art degree – part of me sometimes wishes I had done the former – I would be just a couple of years away from retiring now (like my cousin who is really enjoying his early 50s without needing to work).Posted 5 years agobinnersSubscriber
This is how capitalism works. There are more than 2.5 million unemployed out there. And the economy is completely ****ed!!! When you’re living on £71 a week, then a 19k starting salary looks pretty damn good!! Actually, as a starting salary it is quite good! Better than most! They’ll have no problem recruiting at all.
And they’ll need all those extra coppers in the summer, when we’re officially into a triple dip recession and the cuts really begin to bite. All while Dave and Chums are figuring out more ways to give their rich friends more tax breaks. No bread and circuses as a distraction this year remember.
Posted 5 years agotimidwheelerSubscriber
No housing allowance.Posted 5 years ago
Free travel is something offered by local travel companies. In some areas there is some, in other areas none.
Pension – too complicated for a single post but nowhere near as good as the urban myths.
Overtime at time and a third after the first 30 mins which is unpaid.
Hours 40 hours a week on a 24 hour pattern.jekkylMember
yeah but the salary goes up every year, not every job gets that. Even if the pension isn’t as good as it was I understand from my brother in law, who’s a DC, that it still spanks any private and most other public sector pensions.Posted 5 years ago
Also, coppers get free rail travel on any service apart from virgin (have you seen the price of train tickets) imagine free travel from lands end to john o groats. They also get lots of perks like free meals at local cafes, the use of day glo vests and the right to grow an awful moustache. 🙂
“Acpo was concerned about the starting salaries range proposed and the outcome of these negotiations means that chief constables will now have the flexibility to pay a starting salary of up to £22,000 depending on skills and qualifications. Officers can also reach the top rate of pay three years earlier than under the current arrangements.”
Not all bad news then?Posted 5 years ago
It would also be more sensible to quote the full article including comments why the (full!) proposals may well be popular – unless the reason was purely to troll?
There is a hyper-link to the full article in the 1st post – you just have to click the mouse on it…….Posted 5 years agoduckmanMember
Not a copper, but they do compulsory overtime up my way, extra hour on the weekend shifts as a starter. Been a very long time since they got housing and also they are paying off as many seniors as they can, not recruiting or promoting. Case in point; My mate needs a knee op but is putting it off as he is worried they will do everything they can to retire him on medical grounds as he has been in 28 years.As it is he knows he will be binned as soon as he hits 30 years as it is money NOT experience that counts.In your local town you would be suprised at the rank of the officer in charge on a Saturday afternoon football match(and not in a good way)Posted 5 years agogusamcMember
how does the good old carry on about police (and public sector) pay being the same (? presumably London weighting) in all areas, so in some areas they are very well paid indeed but in the higher cost areas no so ?
“Police officers may receive a housing allowance, take early retirement, and a pension package which is better than most public sector workers, he says” – being blunt here anybody still on a salary based scheme should be very relieved on being so.Posted 5 years ago
Seems having read the article it’s not really the full story, what a shock, it would seem they want it changed for hose without experience to be paid less than those with. It also mentions that you will progress through the pay scale quicker too. It’s not the job it once was so much has changed, pensions, perks, hours and conditions.
Thats still about £8000 more than my wife earns for a full time job in the public sector. A job that she’s been doing 10 years, required 3 years college and puts her in the line of danger every day (without the uniform to protect her)
Full time for 10 years and still on £11k? I’m intrigued what does she do?Posted 5 years ago
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