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  • Premier Icon jameso
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    Is the 2015 model worth the extra £100 (assuming that is the RRP)

    I can’t really answer that for you – it’s £100 for 11s Shimano 105 vs 10s and a (subtly, some would say) revised frame and fork, flare drop bars and TLR rims. Minor or major stuff depending on your perspective. But you could ride the 2014 bike tomorrow rather than wait some weeks.

    gredawarha
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    Thanks Jameso

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    James, couple more questions if I may?

    1. If you had the choice between a grey washing up bowl or a beige washing up bowl, which one would you go for?

    2. Don’tcha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

    4. If swimming is so good for you, why are whales so fat?

    Jamie
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    I’ll take this one.

    1. Gray

    2. No….and stop sending me those pics.

    3. They don’t swim, they float.

    Premier Icon jameso
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    ^ ta. 7/10.

    Premier Icon xherbivorex
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    it might have already been answered somewhere but i couldn’t see it- mudguard mounts on the 2015 bikes?

    jet26
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    Not jameso but I am called james! Has them – not sure if front mudguard needs bastardising as mount is halfway up fork

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    Think this has full, separate bosses for rack and guards on the back and guards on the front?

    Amazed how many frames lack this.
    This years and next years Kona Sutra is let down by this and that’s supposed to be a tourer!

    One boss for both is a right pita ime.

    Premier Icon jameso
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    Think this has full, separate bosses for rack and guards on the back and guards on the front?

    Yup. 2 eyelets on the rear. Front guard fitting may make up for any lack of faff at the rear .. has to mount radially under the crown, ie you need to remove the upright of an SKS P-45s L-bracket and drill it 5mm or fit a Bontrager guard that has a more direct mount – I saw one but can’t remember the name now. It’s because the fork spec I wanted (exact geo and from a very well reputed supplier) was only available if guards fitted this way, due to the crown shape. A minor faff but has worked well for steel/other forks for years and looks really neat when fitted.

    Front stay mounts up the fork have an advantage – less need for seccu-clips as the stay mount position means the guard can move away from the tyre should anything jam in the wheel or lower guard. Lack of seccu-clips for safe mounting means more choice. You’ll need to add a bend in the stays of many guards but that’s normal with a disc equipped bike ime.

    cgreggers
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    Sorry James, approxmate release date for the arkose 3/4?

    Jamie
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    Sorry James, approxmate release date for the arkose 3/4?

    Not jameso, but am a Jamie*.

    6-8 weeks.

    *Passport says James, tho.

    cgreggers
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    Thanks Jam(ie) 😉

    Can I wait that long?! Cycle to work scheme is ready and waiting…

    Jamie
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    You never know, jameso may have some good news, and they are here sooner.

    Premier Icon jameso
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    Checking and will update asap.

    Premier Icon xherbivorex
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    tbh, i don’t bother with guards at all on my roadrat currently (which this will be replacing) so could probably live with a lack of front one if i couldn’t be bothered faffing, and i won’t be needing front panniers ever pretty much as it’ll be commuting/playing/sort of road riding i’ll be doing, with perhaps some cx events (i won’t say racing as that wouldn’t accurately describe what i’m capable of) thrown in. no touring.

    yup, reckon it’s arkose 4 vs crosslight pro6 now, as far as I’m concerned…

    I’m also interested in the Arkose 4 – I especially like the sound of matt cyan. Unfortunately my cyclescheme voucher has to be issue before end of September, otherwise it is 6 months before I can get another so it sounds like a no go for me.

    Jamie
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    Maybe you can pre-order?

    I’d advise ringing them, or popping into local branch, as email seems an alien concept.

    Jamie
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    ….and all the others: Clicky

    I had discounted the CX1, but….it’s…. {it’s gone now. That colour isn’t available after all, sorry. Mod}

    Arkose 4:


    MrSalmon
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    The Arkose 4 looks awesome. Loads of good drop bar stuff around at the moment, almost a shame my current ride has years left in it yet!

    cgreggers
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    Yaaaay.

    Must say good work James O on the development on the range.

    Now to prepare cycle scheme for the 5/10!

    Jamie
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    Bit odd Evans having the splatter grey Arkose 5 as the main pic, but the red version is the one you can buy/pre-order.

    I’m liking the look of the 4 a lot, and a great, sensible spec for an all rounder too. It would be tough to choose between that on looks or a lower spec but potentially better frame (and through axles) with the Giant TCX 2 or Focus AX 2.0

    Has anyone got 1st hand experience of through axles on road CX or commmuter bikes? My rigid mtb forks are stiff enough for off road so I can’t see much advantage on road or CX where the loads will be so much less and the wheels much flexier?

    I’m liking the look of the 4 a lot,

    Im just miffed at the numbers of bikes not fitting the new 105 cranks! Ok theyre probably functionaly no better than FSA but they look good for once!

    Jamie
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    Im just miffed at the numbers of bikes not fitting the new 105 cranks! Ok theyre probably functionaly no better than FSA but they look good for once!

    Also, FSA cranks are painted with a gnat’s micron of paint, and usually rub through if you look at them funny. Shame there’s no 105 cranks.

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    Bit odd Evans having the splatter grey Arkose 5 as the main pic, but the red version is the one you can buy/pre-order.

    Glitch spotted earlier, hopefully sorted now. Grey splatter is the only colour.

    105 cranks – they’re really expensive .. and very good, but won’t fit into £1000 or so bike budgets easily.
    Thru-axles – imo not ‘needed’ on rigid frames and forks but will become a std sooner or later. 15mm used now but planning on 12mm being more likely for road/cx in future. Jumping early on these things isn’t always a benefit.

    Jamie
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    Oh….now that’s annoying.

    Was going to pre-order the 4 last night, but figured I would wait on some info from jameso, and the bastard thing has gone up £50 overnight.

    *shakes fist*

    Premier Icon jameso
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    We’ve had a few issues with the upload. Sorry. £1250 was always the right / planned price. But we have dropped the 1 and 2 by £50, to be in line with deliberately more competitive pricing on the road bikes.

    Jamie
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    But we have dropped the 1 and 2 by £50, to be in line with deliberately more competitive pricing on the road bikes.

    I am very happy for potential 1 & 2 owners….

    105 cranks – they’re really expensive .. and very good, but won’t fit into £1000 or so bike budgets easily.

    Fair enough, on the upside there isn’t that I’m aware a CX (36-46)geared 4-arm 5800 chainset, and a 46t ultegra chainring is £89.99! So untill someone comes out with an aftermarket set it’d not be seeing any mud anyway! At least the FSA will be cheap to addapt with aftermarket rings.

    Thru-axles – imo not ‘needed’ on rigid frames and forks but will become a std sooner or later. 15mm used now but planning on 12mm being more likely for road/cx in future. Jumping early on these things isn’t always a benefit.

    Agreed, it’s not something I’ll miss and I’d be more annoyed if they were a superceeded standard later on given my road bike buying timescales are 10+ year intervals!

    acjim
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    Could someone nice please let me know what headset to get for the 2013 version of this bike please?

    I believe it’s an internal version 1 1/8 and 1 1/2?

    Thanks!

    Premier Icon jameso
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    ^ It is. FSA Orbit C40 as std spec – 45 degree seat ACB bearings, 41.8mm OD upper / 51.8mm OD lower.

    Jamie
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    Glitch spotted earlier, hopefully sorted now. Grey splatter is the only colour.

    Nope.

    …price correction has been applied, tho.

    😛

    acjim
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    Thanks Jameso!

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    Eat your breakfast aggressively in the direction of the web upload types
    : )
    The other colour is not available. It’s a gaff. If you edit that post it may save me answering qs etc about it (ie, please)

    Jamie
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    I will have to get the mods to do it, I can’t edit after 15 mins.

    Which posts? All the ones with the red one in it?

    If I do so, can I get a £50 off voucher? 😀

    Edit: Ah, I see you already got the mods to prune the first post. Also, I cannot report my own post, so you’ll have to get them to do the one above as well.

    Premier Icon firestarter
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    Damn that red was temping but not the ropey 80s kona copy 🙁

    Premier Icon jameso
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    Ah well, no bother. See this is why we don’t offer colour choices 😀

    (copy / homage / all good things come around .. )

    alangrozier
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    was out on the 2 today for a spin, loving the feel of this
    grab yourself a bargain 2 if you can you won’t be disappointed 😀

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