Photographing an accident
Saw the results of a nasty motorbike/van interface on my commute tonight. The air ambulance was just arriving as I passed and the rider was lying screaming in the road while several members of the public helped him. What got me was that several people were using camera phones to record events. It just struck me as disgusting voyeurism. I get recording the scene for accident investigation but they were photographing/videoing the rider who was clearly in agony.
Just checked a local news site to see if the rider survived. It has a series of images from the scene all creditted to different sources so are they encouraging this behaviour?
Interested in other views as it seemed a bit sick to me.Posted 3 years agoHarry_the_SpiderSubscriber
My wife slipped and broke her leg in 3 places on holiday a few years ago. As it was quite a remote spot there was some effort required to get her up to the ambulance. A bloke coming the other way started circling us and taking pictures.
I very nearly grabbed his camera and lobbed it over the horizon but one of the paramedics stepped in and advised the photographer that it may be in his own interest to jog off.Posted 3 years agoJCLMember
JCL do you have an issue with the police/ambulance filming you when dealing with you when dealing with incidents?
Haven’t really thought about it to be honest but I don’t think I would mind. Then again I’m not a government revenue and protection “force” masquerading as public servants.
JCL I hope you’re wearing safety shoes for when that massive chip on your shoulder falls off.
For the record I think it’s pathetic to film people in the aftermath of accidents but if if we place restrictions on public filming I think certain people will be more likely to abuse their “authority”.Posted 3 years agomikey-simmoSubscriber
Don’t even start me on this one. On a professional level there are lots of rules some official others personal which guide whet happens at a scene. Some others are made up by creative police officers who confuse what I do for a living with some kind of hobby. If I were out and came across an accident I’d help.Posted 3 years agoLummoxSubscriber
Personally I think it’s disgusting and ghoulish, filming someone in their most vulnerable and needy moments, especially to get some Facebook likes.
I’ve been working at plenty of scenes where the cameras are out to capture the incident, some even break the cordon tape to get a better angle.
DisgustingPosted 3 years ago
OP, lincoln by any chance?
Yep – The mountain biking haven in which I reside…
OP why didn’t you say something to them?
Along the lines of ‘shame on you you disgusting pondlife’.
I was slightly more Germanic in voicing my disgust. Not that it stopped the sick ****s from filming and I wasn’t going to add to the stress of the scene by kicking off at them.Posted 3 years agotaffySubscriber
it’s not on really IMHO.
The press and social media encourages it (likes/ free reporting etc) Free speech is fine but taking pleasure by videoing and sharing someone else’s pain (especially a complete stranger) and discomfort is ghoulish. I woudnt like it done to me and i would imaginre the videoe wouldnt lkike to ahve it done to themPosted 3 years agodoogeMember
I am, in a way, one of these public servants masquerading as a protection force and people love to have the gore on their phones. Its to outdo their mates, one up everyone, something to talk about. It can be a brilliant insight into human (dis) logic as they double up trying to catch the services attended of wrong doing. It is a shame that people dont trust the police until they need them and this is being shared to the masses via video. Its rare anyone gets a formal thanks for the work they do and thats not just police but paramedics, fire, search and rescue, all of them.
However morally wrong it is to film this kind of thing legally I dont *think* there is anything stopping them.Posted 3 years ago
I didn’t see any phones (as I was pre-occupied) but the time I helped a motorcyclist who had been side-swiped off his bike and was laying flat on his face. There was a bus FULL of people gawping at us. The only people helping were me and the bus driver. Obviously the bus was going nowhere quick so why did no one get off and help?
I had to lift/shove his bike out of harms way (cars were driving at it/round it at 40 in a 40 (it was at a junction/lights leading onto the 40 dual carriageway). I also had to stand infront of the rider to prevent said-cars from driving to close. Soon as a Police van turned up I left. Up until that point it no one moved forward. Just stared.
Why are people like that? Wont intervene/get involved? ‘Not their job’?
Conversely a recent occurrence was a beemer X1 series that had ploughed over armco into small trees on a sliproad bend on a motorway. Police were on scene and we were waived through- as I drove passed I noticed at least EIGHT passersby from numerous cars swarming the car/helping out.Posted 3 years ago
I’ve got no objection to my actions being filmed, but I have been in situations where I would have liked to be able to stop people filming for the sake of the injured person or relative. It felt pretty shit to tell a bloke that there was nothing I could do to stop a press cameraman filming his dead wife (fell down a mountain) being stretchered into the undertakers van 🙁Posted 3 years agoCountZeroMember
poah – Member
Don’t see the issue – you were looking at the scene, what is the difference to viewing it in real life to recording it and showing someone later.
If you don’t understand the difference, I’m not entirely sure I can explain it to you in simple terms that will clarify it for you.Posted 3 years agopoahMember
CountZero – Member
If you don’t understand the difference, I’m not entirely sure I can explain it to you in simple terms that will clarify it for you.
I’d not film the situation described above nor would I actually pay attention to it either unless I was paid to do so. But wither you stop and stare, rubber neck the incident or film it I don’t see the difference – you are being voyeuristicPosted 3 years agoMoreCashThanDashSubscriber
I did my first aid at work training tbe other month and we were advised to deal with bystanders as either witnesses to tbe incident who might be needed later and anyone who could help with first aid, even if just by phoning the ambulance for you.
Everyone else fell within a third category, which was the people you should tell to just **** off and keep out the wayPosted 3 years ago
Don’t see the issue – you were looking at the scene
I didn’t stop and stare – I cycled past about 5 meters away on a cycle path – I challenge anyone not to turn their head when there is a bright yellow helicopter hovering close enough overhead they are in the downdraft and a screaming patient is lying in the middle of the road next to you!
That’s not voyeurism its human nature.Posted 3 years ago
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