very few people can actually be bothered to work out the accurate MPG

If you go by full tank to full tank then bear in mind that not all pumps stop at the same level of fullness. Only real way is to take down the number of litres you put in each time and the mileage travelled over a long period of time. And yes I can’t be bothered to do that for the sake of a few percent. I know my trip computer is accurate to 1 or 2 mpg either way.

You don’t have to take the motorway, do you?

Dibbs – I used to compare indicated to actual mpg. It always over-read. Normally by about 3%. I think the worst I had was 8% but that was a one off from 10’s of comparisons and not sure why it happened.

No, I could go through several towns and villages and instead of 30 mins take over 90.
The only thing is I can listen to Opeth or Vivaldi or whatever I fancy when I drive, sing aloud, fart and burp. And nobody will tell me I’m ill mannered.
In the Summer my little Honda Bros 650 will hopefully be useful.

Buy an ipod and take the bus, if it’s feasable of course.

HC I meant that you could cycle off the motorway…

Want to know where that tax revenue goes? Have a peek at these, just sorry that 2 parts have been pulled but you should get the idea at just how much sh&t our country is in…

and if that’s not bad enough here is how they get it, Shocking!!

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-shock-doctrine/4od#3053769

Euroclive – a load of sensationalist ranting for someone semidetached from reality. Read up a bit about him

a load of sensationalist ranting for someone semidetached from reality.

anyone else’s irony detector gone off….

lol @iDave, like a big flashing beacon! 🙂

TJ is sounds like you have hit the jackpot with your public transport you use and I am most happy for you. The sad reality is that the majority of us do not have that experience. More than happy to sit next to someone on a train but when I have to spend 30 mins being ranted at by a drunk or intimidated by a load of lads getting stella’d up then it makes me want to be in my car.

Public transport should be just that it should be publicly owned and all profits driven into improving it, or less profit taken and tickets made cheaper.

molgrips, that’s exactly what I said – 90 mins, I rode a few times into the LBS I worked at and that was just 7 miles nearer. The problem is you cyclo on the second busiest road around here, the one taken by mums dropping kids to school, buses, lorries and everybody who wants to avoid the toll motorway. Very unsafe comparing to London where I rode everywhere.
TJ might be lucky with his situation regarding public transport but… as a leftie dreaming of something he never experienced (socialism) he might want to know back in the 70’s in Poland my mum walked to the bus stop with me in a buggy, took the bus to the creche where I spent the whole day for free whilst she was working in the city. The buggy would stay at the bus stop, nobody would ever touch it. The bus came every 6 mins outside the peak times and every 3 mins during the rush time. I’m sure TJ would’ve loved to live there and then (apart from his reliance of capitalism giving him the goods he likes – shoes, bikes, campers, cars, decent food in shops et.)
In Ireland, at least in here, public transport is poor, never on time, full of people who’ve just finished their fag and who stick as hell. Or school-bound teenagers and that’s even worse.