Home Forums Chat Forum People who use your name at the start of every sentence

Viewing 40 posts - 1 through 40 (of 56 total)
  • People who use your name at the start of every sentence
  • bfw
    Full Member

    Is it me or is this some sort of passive aggressive thing?  I really hate this.

    New PM at work and she is driving me up the wall doing this in meetings to me and others

    16
    kelvin
    Full Member

    Might be a tactic to try and remember names. I do the opposite… will avoid using names because I’m never 100% sure I’ll get them right!

    7
    Drac
    Full Member

    Bfw, i can’t say it’s something I get annoyed about.

    5
    mashr
    Full Member

    Luckily I’ve been steeled against such people as I have 2 children who start every sentence with “dddddaaaaaaaaadddddd” – that’s 7 syllables fwiw

    1
    scotroutes
    Full Member

    If you’re at a meeting and your name isn’t used, how do you know who they are referring to? It’s also handy if you have some sort of recording going on for minute-taking.

    1
    DrP
    Full Member

    Might be a tactic to try and remember names.

    Probably this.

    I can’t remember names for the life of me.. but I can remember where and I really need to practice this (using thename over and over) in order to remember and appear less rude.

    I can’t remember patient’s names, but I remember them by literally making a mental journey from the practice to their house..THEN I remember them.

    DrP

    Rubber_Buccaneer
    Full Member

    Bfw, i can’t say it’s something I get annoyed about.


    @Drac
    that should be a lower case b and needs an @ to be proper annoying

    1
    boblo
    Free Member

    It’s to establish rapport. In that ‘Peter, you are so important to me/this, I’m referring to you by name. You’re not an anonymous droid but a special little diamond etc’…

    If it’s overdone, it can seem contrived and annoying.

    5
    meikle_partans
    Free Member

    It’s a trick they’ve learnt off some horrible business book to ingratiate themselves with you because everyone’s favourite word is their own name.

    2
    poly
    Free Member

    Drac, I agree with you.  Like Kelvin, its not something I’m good at so tend not to do it.  I actually find it quite useful when others do it as it reminds me people’s names.  Bfw, I’m not sure why it would be perceived as passive agressive unless you think she is suggesting your weren’t paying attention. Teams calls with cameras off or where I’m presenting and can’t see the others faces mean I am more likely to name people (esp if I have the advantage of a participant list on screen!).   Scotroutes might also have a point if there’s any kind of transcript, then it won’t be able to judge who a comment was directed at from eye contact / body language alone.

    1
    joshvegas
    Free Member

    If you’re at a meeting and your name isn’t used, how do you know who they are referring to? It’s also handy if you have some sort of recording going on for minute-taking.

    I don’t  think the op is objecting to the use of names per se. At the start of every sentence is quite unnatural sounding and can be quite irritating in a “give me you attention so i can tell you what to do Colin” its not very inclusive and can be a bit confrontational if intentional.

    A lack of confidence perhaps from the PM Or poor active listening or straight up not paying attention meaning the PM os having to?

    Engaging dynamic conversation makes a massive difference in a meeting especially if you are running it.

    2
    Andy
    Full Member

    Might be a tactic to try and remember names.

    Yeah when I was a PM I would try and use peoples names a few times in a conversation to help me remember first time I met them. Always made it a natural part of a sentence though. Rarely started each sentence with the persons name as that sounds instructional and almost aggressive which is the last thing a PM wants to come across as. Lead vs Manage etc

    3
    Blackflag
    Free Member

    Im with the OP. Hugely irritating management trick used to engage and build rapport. So it comes across as false and disingenuous.

    2
    winston
    Free Member

    If she continues to do it after a couple of meetings where she can now clearly remember everyone’s name then its just badly implemented low level management training stolen from the US. She probably thinks she’s being authoritative and direct yet personable, but basically comes across as that really irritating boss from the grammerly ads.

    Just return serve.

    3
    Pieface
    Full Member

    Could be rapport, could be for establishing power, who knows.

    But I actually appreciate this, and do it myself before posing a question to someone. Firstly so that they know I’m talking to them, and so that I get a response from them.

    My manager does the opposite, she asks a question, then the name, and then gets annoyed when people don’t know she’s asked the question. I understand that she probably expects everyone to be 100% involved in the conversation, but its just not realistic.

    6
    north of the border
    Full Member

    It’s not as annoying as starting every sentence with “so”.

    1
    cookeaa
    Full Member

    I always assume they’ve been on ‘the course’ that a certain subset of managerial bellends must attend, and have been told its a way to assert dominance/authority over a conversation…

    Lots of cabinet ministers seem to do it when being interviewed…

    1
    revs1972
    Free Member

    You are Clem Fandango and I collect my £5

    1
    Cougar
    Full Member

    Do it back to her only with a different wrong name each time.

    It’s not as annoying as starting every sentence with “so”.

    So what?

    NewRetroTom
    Full Member

    It’s a trick they’ve learnt off some horrible business book to ingratiate themselves with you because everyone’s favourite word is their own name.

    How to win friends and influence people.

    There is definitely some truth in it, but if overdone it is really grating. I think Brits are much more easily annoyed by this kind of thing than Americans.

    1
    flicker
    Free Member

    Might be a tactic to try and remember names. I do the opposite… will avoid using names because I’m never 100% sure I’ll get them right!

    Yup, I’m terrible for remembering peoples names, usually takes 3-4 meetings before it goes in so this is a tictac I use.

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    its just badly implemented low level management training stolen from the US.

    I think it sounds good, I’ll run it up the flagpole at work and see who salutes.

    I’m thinking maybe it’ll help with leveraging all the assets.

    Gotta pick the low-hanging fruit first!

    1
    andrewh
    Free Member

    Im with the OP. Hugely irritating management trick used to engage and build rapport. So it comes across as false and disingenuous

    This. Politicians do it a lot, saying the interviewer’s name often and unnecessarily. That is really annoying

    jimmy
    Full Member

    Depends, sometimes its useful especially in online meetings when you can’t eyeball someone you’re directing conversation at.

    But it can easily be passive aggressive / patronising.

    joshvegas
    Free Member

    My manager does the opposite, she asks a question, then the name, and then gets annoyed when people don’t know she’s asked the question. I understand that she probably expects everyone to be 100% involved in the conversation, but its just not realistic.

    The problem  with names first is you then kill everyone elses interest.

    And that creates silos around the unicorn feed.

    Fueled
    Free Member

    Sounds like your new PM is a people person:

    JonnyC
    Free Member

    I don’t know why it sticks in my mind but one of the guys who got convicted for killing Stephen Lawrence was interviewed by Martin Bashir and kept using this trick of saying ‘Martin’ before every answer.

    Seemed like he’d be told to do it by his solicitor or something because he thought it would engratiate himself to everyone and make him seem more human.

    It was probably a control thing I think as well, but he wasn’t smart enough to pull it off.

    It almost jumped out as a tactic and made him seem the complete opposite of what he’d intended.

    tartanscarf
    Full Member

    I do it to remember names. Really important for me to do that working with kids. Once I’ve got it I don’t keep repeating it though.

    2
    ads678
    Full Member

    Might be a tactic to try and remember names. I do the opposite… will avoid using names because I’m never 100% sure I’ll get them right!

    I agree with this, but I can’t remeber who said it.

    johnx2
    Free Member

    it is annoying, especially when high court judges do it. As in: “Johnx2 I hereby sentence you…”

    1
    IdleJon
    Free Member

    Todd, Todd, Todd, Todd. How’re ya doing there, Todd?

    JonnyC
    Free Member

    Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny

    TheGingerOne
    Full Member

    I feel sorry for Ivor

    thebunk
    Full Member

    +1 for name remembering technique. Though I’ll never use it again after reading that it annoys some people so much they’ll start a new topic about it on a bike forum.

    Until someone else starts a “people that can’t remember your name” thread.

    funkmasterp
    Full Member

    It would irritate me so thank god it hasn’t happened. Comes across a bit unhinged so probably from a management course or one of those ridiculous self help books. I also don’t like being called by my full name and really don’t like being called Sir or Mr. So if somebody called me Mr FunkmasterP at the start of every sentence I’d probably explode with rage.

    1
    10
    Full Member

    Yup, I’m terrible for remembering peoples names, usually takes 3-4 meetings before it goes in so this is a tictac I use

    It’s a mint idea, really.

    1
    Gribs
    Full Member

    I worked briefly at direct line in customer services and using the customers name repeatedly was a targeted part of the call script. I didn’t stay long as even though I was good at solving peoples problems and got through calls quickly I only use people names if I need to let them know I’m taking to them. They made it clear that I had to start doing it or I’d be put on a performance review. I told them I wasn’t going to and left.

    DT78
    Free Member

    far less annoying than someone who constantly refers to themselve in the third person.

    “if someone was to say to me, Chris what do you think about XYZ, i would say”

    makes me want to punch my screen

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    far less annoying than someone who constantly refers to themselve in the third person.

    You can take that up with myself at your performance review.

    (genuine line I had once from a micro-managing boss who repeatedly used “myself” and “yourself” in the wrong context).

    1
    sirromj
    Full Member

    bfw, your username is too similar to btw, and many of the responses above lead me to some confusion, initially.

Viewing 40 posts - 1 through 40 (of 56 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.