Peaks Descents: cave dale or the beast
IIRC jacob's ladder isn't too bad at all coming down, just impossible to get up. Whereas cavedale just bamboozled me when I tried to get down it, I'd be going ok for a bit then realise I'd ended up stuck and had to pick the bike up and put it down the other side of a rock. Possibly too much line choice was my problem?!Posted 8 years ago
– which is hardest??Posted 8 years ago
I did cave dale for 1st time yesterday and ended up dabbing many times. had to stop for walkers coming up which didnt help and put me off my line a bit, but anyway, I did beast for 1st time a couple of weeks ago with the pootle all fine. Cave Dale seemed much trickier in my view- is this the general consensus?
what is jacobs ladder like- even harder?
I've always found Cavedale miles harder than the Beast. The Beast is pretty straightforward once you've ridden it once or twice and know the lines. Cavedale starts off tame enough, then after the gate goes pear-shaped pretty quickly. There are a few lines possible, but commitment is required more than anything.
Used to ride with a guy who'd cleaned it on a rigid SS…Posted 8 years agoJonEdwardsMember
Cavedale is by far the hardest. Best done first thing so the walkers don't have chance to cover the loose greasy rock in gloopy mud just to add to the slipperiness. It's perfectly doable (although tricky on an xc hardtail) – you just have to be prepared to go where the bike takes you.
The Beast is fun. Easy enough to get down, a bit tricky to ride *really* quick though.
The thing about JL is that it's very easy to tie on some real speed and find yourself getting out of your depth. The bottom bit after the gate is getting really rutted, and after the hairpin is now proper rocky – the last couple of times I've done it I've ended up using the gate to stop at the bottom, simply because there's no where else smooth enough to brake on. 😳
Now – how about chucking Chapel Gate into the mix – obviously taking the gully on the bottom bit below the gate. 🙂Posted 8 years ago
Cavedale is harder as it robs and punishes any drop in momentum at all. Whereas Beast you can pick lines, slow, speed up, turn, pick, speed.
Hardest still is that footpath down from the top of Hope Cross to the side of the reservoir. Nothing in the Peaks beats that.
Jacobs Ladder is great. You always receive grins and encouragement from the walkers as you pass them on there 😀Posted 8 years agojimmySubscriber
I don't think I've cleaned Cavedale (~3 attempts). There's a bit after the gate on the rocky section where it gets funnelled a bit and it catches me out everytime and I know I could do it each time, it just mocks me.
But I don't think its a great descent anyway – better to be had over on Mam Tor (*sour grapes*).Posted 8 years agocrazy-legsSubscriber
Cavedale is very hard, I can get it about 2/3rds of the time (and I've cleared it on both my XC FS and on my HT) but so many times I've ended up with a stupid dab or a daft choice of line.Posted 8 years ago
The Beast is just a rockfest, a little bit of commitment will see you through that every time although, as mentioned, it's very hard to ride it fast and well. I think the best I've ever seen it done was Cy on his Cotic Hemlock with some huge burly Magura forks which just ate rocks!
JL is rubbish as a descent (IMHO), it's much better as a climb.PookSubscriber
Hello all, hora, you're talking about chapel gate. Legal all the way.
The type of stone in the area is gritstone.
From hope cross to the res is beast I believe. The climb back up is wooler knoll and not entirely legal.
Cavedale is def the toughest, followed by beast and then jacobs. Have you been down the toboggan run yet hora?
Den – next time you're about let me knowPosted 8 years agoBrownMember
rather than granite like the Beast
I think you mean sandstone vdubber67.
Sorry people, it's gritstone (yeah yeah yeah, type of sandstone etc – still grit.)
Cavedale harder than the Beast. Chapel Gate harder still. The thing (footpath) Hora's on about harder than all three put together.Posted 8 years ago
Soo funny how it looks ridable on these pics. I honestly wouldn't recommend anyone ride down that-you only have one line choice. Just one. Not negotiable and IMO you are not in control for the majority of the descent. At least on the other descents you can brake, move, slow, adjust, turn even stop. If a Walker was coming up you would hit them and cause a serious accident as there is no where for them to jump like on Cavedale, Beast etc etc.
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Cavedale – tried it on a few bikes, never managed to clean the section from the gate.Okay from about 100 yards down but still a challenge. More mental really, bike will do it, you just have to believe!
Beast I just think is fun (on my Pace 405 anyway), speed is definitely your friend.
Parkin clough is ace 🙂 Only done first half and then turned left. Looked down the second section and it is proper difficult.Posted 8 years ago
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