A bar/sportsbar or Pub- is anywhere showing the race live on Sunday morning with big breakie etc?

I don’t have (or want) Sky 😀

Sounds like you do want it

breakfast in bed and f1 at ours.. well worth the sky subs

Sounds like you do want it

It does doesn’t it. Watching the shortened repeat is shit but then seeing how much you have to spend to get Sky monthly then F1 ontop just doesn’t make sense.

Compared to the cost of going to the pub and buying food/drinks etc?

I bet there isn’t much in it, esp if you get sky when they are doing an offer.

There’s a website for that…

http://www.f1inpubs.co.uk/australian-gp-2014/

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Watching the shortened repeat is shit but then seeing how much you have to spend to get Sky monthly then F1 ontop just doesn’t make sense.

It does though, doesn’t it? Sky have got where they are because they’re clever bastards. They’ve created a de facto monopoly on live Sport. They buy the rights to everything, so that they hit a tipping point where even the most unwilling (like me) have to admit defeat.

A BT Sport package with full Sky Sports is £50 a month (all in with 40mb broadband). Which isn’t that bad really, as I can now watch all the Premiership and Champions League games, the Moto GP and the F1. I begrudge it, but what choice have i got? Its that or the only sport you’ll get to watch is the odd horse race, the darts, and the curling once every 4 years on terrestrial.

If you want to watch the F1, then you need Sky. Pubs won’t show it. Why? Because the only people who’ll watch it are people like you, who’ll sit there nursing the same pint through the entire race, and sneakily eating the crisps you bought at the garage down the road. Or they can put the premiership game on thats on at the same time and fill the pub with wifebeater-swilling footy fans

And … NO … you can’t come and watch it at mine, before you ask. 😛

Anyone know where to find it on xbmc?

Be sure and take a pillow with you…

But thats just it. I don’t watch footie, so buying sky and sky sports for just F1 is a waste of money. If I watched alot of sport on tv and/or other channels fine but we aren’t really tv people. Freeview does it all for what we need. Sad about F1 though. I wonder what the sponsors all think…

Why not have the best of both worlds get up early go for a long ride whilst listening on 5 live through an ipod 😀
It will sound a lot more exciting on radio than TV 😀

The sponsors will be the same as everyone else in modern Sport. Its all about the money? And frankly, you’re now an irrelevance. They’re marketing to a global audience. Who’s more important? Who are they trying to appeal to? The youth in an emerging dynamic market in Asia? Or some fat bloke sat in his pants in Stretford?

Try wiziwig Internet TV. Not used it myself but just found out about it at the weekend. Sister inlaws BF watches sky football on it, motor GP. He is sports mad. Also uses a “VPN” so he can watch I player etc in Poland (where they live), so I will be doing that as well on holiday. I’m going to test it on Saturday for the qualifying, if it doesn’t work. I will see you in the pub. I agree getting sky just for the F1 is a waste of money and hate Bernie & the BBC for selling us out.

Craig5 – the BBC isn’t to blame. It has finite resources. Sky (and now BT Sport), have ratcheted the prices up and up to a level where they can’t possibly compete. The likes of Ecclestone or the FA simply sell to the highest bidder. Simple as that. There are no other principles involved.

*Considers auctioning off spare Sky go login*

😈

The sponsors will be the same as everyone else in modern Sport. Its all about the money?

Ask any sponsor if they want just those Sky viewers who have purchased the f1/sports package or every single conceivable home viewer seeing their logo or product (placement?) in the UK? There was uproar when it went wholesale to Sky from the Sponsors. Guess who suffers? The F1 teams through lower revenue and the sports fans.

The company that owns F1 and Bernie, well they are happy.

Pay per view is where F1 is going, for all races soon. If this interweb blag doesn’t work, I’m going to give up F1 completely. I wonder how many F1 fans will do the same who can’t afford sky or won’t pay about £20 a race to watch it (£20 a race @ (£50-£20 for internet / 17? Races). F1 is sold to the highest bidder by Bernie across the world, just look at the empty stands in many of the new venues, when popular venues have been dropped. I wonder what the viewing figures are for skyF1 compared to BBC F1?

Ask any sponsor if they want just the Sky viewers or every single conceivable home viewer seeing their logo or product (placement?).

I’m sure they would. But in the grand scheme of things, its really not that important to them. You’re really not that important to them. You’re just not getting your place in the scheme of things, are you? You’re really not their target market.

Its a global sport now. You’re a (water-tight) bloke who won’t pay to watch a sport you profess to enjoy, living in a country thats in decline. The world is now full of emerging markets full of people with new disposable income, in countries with actual economic prospects, who are chucking it about like theres no tomorrow. Thats what they’re interested in. Not you. Deal with it.

Watch any premiership game. The billboards are full of adverts for companies you’ve never heard of, selling stuff that you can’t even buy in this country. Its all for the emerging markets. F1 is the same in wanting to emulate that business model

There was uproar when it went wholesale to Sky from the Sponsors

No there wasn’t

You’re a (water-tight) bloke who won’t pay to watch a sport you profess to enjoy

Binners I bought their fags for years and merchandise/caps etc etc and as one Man City fan said…

when did you last buy a Man U shirt or season ticket…binners? 😆 😀

F1’s concorde agreement had a clause stipulating that free-to-view must be in place in major markets. That actually means Europe still as despite what Bernie would like people to believe, that’s still the hub of F1’s popularity. That may well change over time but it’s not there yet.

That said, the agreement has just recently been resigned so that clause could have changed.

I’m going to watch it on the web for free. And spend my smug money on a Enduro saddle that matches my Enduro bar hanger.

The BBC was averaging 5.5m viewers for their last full season apparently with a peak of 8m for one race (can’t remember which one). Last year Sky averaged 1.2m (a low of 300k after Vettel had bored everyone to death) with the BBC getting 3m with a peak of 5m for the British GP. Was printed in one of the racing mags (Autosport?) over xmas.

One interesting thing that has been noticed is that those with Sky F1 have an odd habit on the races that Sky and the BBC show live. They watch the BBC for the build-up then switch to Martin’s grid walk. Once that is over they go back to the BBC then back to Sky when the race starts. Race finishes so they switch back to the BBC! So all those adverts are cut out and you get the best of each channel’s output.

Personally I’m happy with the BBC’s coverage as the highlights are well edited to show all the main points and it frees up more riding time. There’s no way I could justify spending £600+ just to watch the 10 non-live GP’s a year.

Watched an interview with MAx Moseley t’other day (on sky sports f1), he mentioned a quote from bernie that sums up the way the sport is/is going (refering to the teams, but applies to the race venues too.

‘There’s always another billionaire’

Look at every recent additional venue in the last 10-15 years. With the exception of the USA, non of them (maaaaybe India. Well, Veejay Malia and his mates, 30-40 years ago) has any real motorsport history.

Not just F1 either, the only NHRA (US drag racing body) approved track outside of the US is in, you guessed it, Dubai.

Santa Pod who?

I see Bernie (who, IMO, is one of the biggest/best trolls in sport, for the sake of getting reactions/things done) has just mentioned plans for the Azerberjani GP. Should be a classic 🙄

Lets be honest, the ‘highlights’ for most F1 races would probably fit in a commercial break. The bigger news, by a long shot, was BT Sport getting the Moto GP for this season. Much more of an incentive to get digital telly IMHO. Well… that and Michael Owens Premiership commentaries.

Unless you wanted to use it as a sleeping aid. In which case F1 is essential viewing

get a free sat dish, point it at the sat which gets German f1 free feed, and listen to commentary on 5 live. sync the feed through computer feed.

sorted.

I was having a chat with a mate the other day – what if BT Sport came along in 2016/17 and outbid Sky for the F1? A lot of people (myself included) don’t like Sky on principle but don’t seem to have the same fundamental loathing for BT. Also I’d hope that by then Bernie will have been safely escorted away from the sport so the figures won’t be quite so astronomic.

get a free sat dish

Oh hello, interested. Theres a dish sat on my wall still. I wonder what that does/is.

Sadly still Mr Murdoch but a much cheaper option for wathcing the ‘must watch live’ races that aren’t on beeb. Buy a Now TV box for £9.99 and pick up some 24hour passes on ebay I got 5 for £15. Ta da F1 in your home when you want to watch it and no nasty big bills. Also Now TV apps for beeb etc are really good for streaming free online TV.

Enjoy!

£66 per race is what I calculated last year, if I’d kept the sky sub going.

Least I can get RTL here, and Radio5Live for commentary (handy when ad breaks are on).

Even to get the cable sub would cost me a whopping €2/month for HD.

Someone, somewhere is ripping someone off.

hora, do you have a sky dish up at your property?
if you do, contact me, I have something that may be of interest to you.

£66 per race is what I calculated last year, if I’d kept the sky sub going

You need to brush up on your negotiating, £25 per race here. (£40 per month, for 12 months. £18 per race if I only had it for the months the season is running)

Oh, but I get the full sky tv package (movies, sport inc lots of excellent cycling coverage, 3D, everything) included in that £25….

Interesting point about the BBC viewing figures being higher. I wonder how many people watch F1 just because its on, rather than making an effort to view it? I know I’m guilty of it – if it comes down to ‘homes under the hammer’ or F1, I’ll probably watch the F1.

With the loss of it to Sky I won’t be massively affected, and with the bore-fest that Moto GP has become recently I won’t miss the coverage of that either.

What’s well worth buying if you have an Apple device (maye they have it on Android as well) is the Eurosport player. £2.99 a month and all the cycling races – Paris Roubaix, Paris Nice, Milan San Remo and so on plus the Cross stuff via t’interweb. Bloody brilliant at the weekend and the commentry is VERY good.

What’s well worth buying if you have an Apple device (maye they have it on Android as well) is the Eurosport player. £2.99 a month and all the cycling races – Paris Roubaix, Paris Nice, Milan San Remo and so on plus the Cross stuff via t’interweb. Bloody brilliant at the weekend and the commentry is VERY good

Hear hear!

Flange – good tip about hte Eurosport app, hadnt realised it was so cheap!

You don’t need to pay £15/month for the whole Sky sports package. The Sky F1 channel comes with the HD package which I pay £5/month for

Its a global sport now. You’re a (water-tight) bloke who won’t pay to watch a sport you profess to enjoy, living in a country thats in decline. The world is now full of emerging markets full of people with new disposable income, in countries with actual economic prospects, who are chucking it about like theres no tomorrow. Thats what they’re interested in. Not you. Deal with it.

This is such bollocks, by 2050 we’re still projected to be a top 10 economy. I don’t know many people who aren’t European that are into F1 btw.

The biggest recent jump in audience numbers has been in the States, I mean…I totally forgot that the States is a developing nation.

You need to brush up on your negotiating

tbf that was based on a full sub, but hardly watched anything. maybe the odd half episode of Mythbusters or a TG repeat on Dave.

I did renegotiate. Now spending £0.00 on nothing 🙂

Buggerall on TV now, besides, F1, TG, cycling and IoM T on ITV4, and a few documentaries on BBC4.

Plus German Eurosport shows skiing when the schedules says skiing is on. British Eurosport will probably show tennis, since they’re the world champions at showing things totally different to what the schedules say.

So F1 for free. F1 in HD for €24 for the whole year. Can’t decide.