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  • Orange Stage Evo , any thoughts from owners?
  • Wally
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    Currently on a HT and regularly cycle in clay/mud during winter. When I tried out mates FS I remembered how nice some squish is. Anybody got some long term thoughts?

    I have had a Single Pivot SC super light some time ago and like the mud clearance and simplicity. 5’11” so it’s a large or XL?

    militantmandy
    Free Member

    Personally, I wouldn’t let mud clearance / number of bearings force me towards a certain bike. I had a single pivot Starling Murmur. It really wasn’t any more or less hassle than any other bike.
    Yes bearing change was quick and easy, but still had to be done at similar intervals.

    What kind of riding do you do and what’s the budget? At 5’11” you’re likely to be large, but you may be able to up or downsize depending on bike.

    Wally
    Full Member

    99% forests fields and woods with wheels on ground. Covering distance up and down, with very mild lumpy bits and logs and whatnot.

    pop-larkin
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    Defo large as its fairly stretched out as is teh fashion- should have bought mine that was advertised a few weeks ago as I ended up giving it away virtually…

    Im just over 6ft with a 32 inch leg and definitely wouldnt have wanted it bigger

    Great bikes by the way just dont seem to have much profile for some reason so if you go second hand you may be able to get a good deal if you are patient

    snotrag
    Full Member

    Posted elsewhere but some off the top of my head…

    Had Oranges before including a 2018 Stage 4 which so very close to being right, but the geo wasnt quite caught up then and it was limited in really high speed stuff by the small rear shock (Fox DPS).

    Had other stuff in between including a Hightower but went from SC + Hardtail to a Stage Evo in November – its my only MTB now.

    + The paint finish, graphics and quality of the 2022 is steps nicer than the 2018.
    + The updated modern geo means that where I used to ride a large, I now ride a medium, and can run a proper decent dopper post (was limited to 100, now ride 150mm drop).
    + The old one had a Fox DPS, an XC shock. The new one has the 2022 Fox Float X, which is 5mm longer stroke, much bigger oil capacity, big soft bottom out bumper etc.
    + Its light weight (comparable to lots of carbon equivalents)
    + Now got bottle cage mounts
    – They are on the downtube
    – Its not cheap
    – Its very hard to get a test ride or sit on one

    Its not the plushest or most cosseting – thats not the point. Its ‘less is more’ and that might or might nor work for you. Its really, really fast when you stand up and sprint, it feels lively, and you can always tell whats happening under your feet.

    Its a good bike to come to from a hardtail for those reaons too, it will give you lots of benefits without feeling too leaden and dull which a more competent, plusher or longer travel bike can do.

    Mud clearance is also brilliant, that used to frustrat me with many other bikes, Oranges stay cleaner for longer and dont clog up. Makes a difference in Winter.

    Less is more.

    Atomizer
    Full Member

    Echo Snotrag there. Mine is really likeable, feels like a step up from a hard tail without being too cosseting. I came from a Cotic Flaremax and this is more me and certainly lighter. I’m 5’10” and went for a large which is perfect.
    No test ride, just ordered from Dales Bike Centre who I trust for advice.

    chakaping
    Free Member

    I have the Stage 4 (Snotrag’s old frame) with an angleset, and if I had to replace it the Stage Evo would be top of my list.

    feels like a step up from a hard tail without being too cosseting.

    Spot-on, much more lively and engaging than other short-travel shred sleds I’ve owned (Smuggler, process 111).

    Only downside (as with most FS Oranges) is no room for a bottle in the frame.

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    I posted something last week about a new bike and decided after owning 2 full sus Oranges long term now that what I wanted was a third. They match my ability to set aside time for maintenance absolutely perfectly. Just picked up my new Five Evo last night…

    If you’re interested, I know someone who is going to be selling a 2019 Stage 5 (I think its a Factory) in large… Not quite as gnar as the Evos in geometry but a hell of a lot less to buy. I was tempted but at 5’8″ I would be been extremely borderline in terms of sizing…

    tenfoot
    Full Member

    I have the five evo’s predecessor, the four.

    Cracking bike and I can’t see me ever getting rid. I’m 5”11 and riding a Large.

    I strapped a fidlock to the underside of the top tube to overcome the lack of bottle bosses. Not ideal, but it works ok.

    rstephenson
    Free Member

    On the sizing question, it sounds like at 5′ 11 you’ll probably be on a large, but just to say I’ve got a 2020 stage 5 which has similar geometry to the current evos and at 6′ I’m on an xl. I just found the seated position too cramped on the large for my liking. That’s with a 35mm stem btw. Comparing to Cotic for example, Orange seems to size their bikes slightly differently. Their Xl sits between cotics L and Xl in terms of reach and ett so just something to be aware of.
    I love my stage 5 but something I’d probably change is to have a slightly higher bb. Lots of rocks here and you have to be fairly careful when climbing not to catch pedals over rough ground, and that’s with fairly short cranks. I think the stage evo is even lower but has less travel obv. Again the bb drop on cotics are a fair bit less I think. Not sure if others find this an issue..
    Good luck choosing!

    funkmasterp
    Full Member

    Love the look of them but too expensive for me. Post some pics if you get one OP

    willej
    Full Member

    I just got a 2021 Stage Evo LE a week ago. Only ridden it once but I’m very impressed. I’m 5′ 10″ and chose a large and it fits perfectly.
    I’ve had several full sus bikes before but this is my first with 29″ wheels and progressive geo; I’m sold. I wanted a single pivot again, after loving my SC Superlight back in the early 2000s.
    I managed to snag mine at a bargain 26% discount. Wouldn’t have paid full price for it. Second ride tomorrow!

    willej
    Full Member

    This is where I got mine.

    tall_martin
    Full Member

    I had an orange segment for a year, in xl- I’m 6″4.

    It was great for the riding you describe.

    It had a tiny shock 165*38mm. It was either plushish and bottoming multiple times per ride or hard. I put this down to the very short stroke on the shock.

    When I stripped it down, the rear triangle was cracked. Orange replaced the rear end under warranty very promptly and were great to deal with.

    I’d have another full suss orange, but only if
    – it was brand new
    – it had a 50mm+ shock stroke
    – it had a long reach. I have a Geometron and hello Dave with 520mm and 530mm reach.

    My 5 year old orange clockwork 120 is doing sterling service with a kids ride shotgun on the front

    snotrag
    Full Member

    @tall_martin this was still a problem with the later Stage 4, especially with the dinky inline Fox DPS.

    As per my comments above, this is now completely resolved, at least if you choose the Float X. It’ll be partially the stroke, and partially the much, much better shock.

    It now has a much wider window of operation, I can run plenty of sag but also absolutely tw*t it off stuff without the metallic clanging bottom out of the old bikes. It was much easier to get in the sweet spot of tuning too, and the two way climb switch works great for tarmac sprints.

    They are much further down the LLS avenue nowadays too (though not geometron-like!).

    chakaping
    Free Member

    I’ve changed that DPS for a cane creek inline air now, it’s bloody amazing and so much more supple and grippy.

    I didn’t really mind the DPS as I liked the “hardtail with a bit of give” feel, but the CC shock and pike have made it a far more capable bike.

    tall_martin
    Full Member

    @snotrag

    Glad that’s changed! It was absolutely awesome for the tame/ distance stuff near me. Just not for the more jumpy stuff

    rstephenson
    Free Member

    I’ve found the megneg a useful upgrade for tuning the suspension on my stage 5 if you go down the rockshox route.

    Vortexracing
    Full Member

    Love mine, defintley firmer under pedal than the Smuggler I had, and to me, its a perfect balance between speed and compliance.

    Just looking to replace the Pike with a new factory 34. To finish it off. 😉

    I bought it as ‘1 bike does all’ IMO its pretty good at filling that Niche 👍

    [url=https://flic.kr/p/2mKQziC]Untitled[/url] by eastham_david, on Flickr

    Wally
    Full Member

    Thank you for all contributions. Will keep an eye out for a large over the next months.

    willej
    Full Member

    Stage Evo LE

    willej
    Full Member

    [url=https://flic.kr/p/2nBqzE7]IMG_20220730_110841333_HDR[/url] by Will Jenkins, on Flickr

    tomtomr
    Full Member

    I’ve found the megneg a useful upgrade for tuning the suspension on my stage 5 if you go down the rockshox route.

    Shock stroke (45mm) on the Stage Evo is too short for a megneg aircan I believe

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