Orange P7 29er
Nothing wrong with a steel 29er love my solaris, although i agree that it isnt really a P7. The p7 name has been used on a pretty broad range of bikes by now. If you compare the rigid 26 inch wheeled xc bike of the nineties to its various incarnations. They may wish to splash out on a new name!
I must declare to being a serial orange fs owner but never a ht/rigid.Posted 3 months agobootsyMember
Had mine delivered and built up a week ago (by Rob ‘Box’ Cooksley at Bad Ass Bikes) but have only had a chance to get out on two rides (3rd today!). Transferred all the old parts from my Salsa El Mariachi. Initial impression are that it instantly handles way better than the old bike as you would expect from the modern geo, with the length of the front end really helping here. Its surprisingly agile given the length of the chain stays too. I couldn’t get the El M to pop off anything where as this thing encourages you to boost off the smallest trail bump which is fun. Stability at speed is very good.
It doesn’t ride harsh although I’m running some carbon hoops on my 29 wheels rather than the ally ones on my 27.5 wheels and plus tyres which does make a difference in trail communication. In all this effing mud its fine as the soft ground helps (showing my age as comfort is a consideration for me ;-)the 29 tyres cut down to the traction, the plus tyres would be next to useless in this cr+p until it freezes or dries up.
Talking of wheels, Rob was able to use a kit to adapt the non-boost wheels to the boost rear end of the frame and along with a little re-dish of the wheels it runs a treat. Fantastic!
Only slight negative is that I’m currently running a 120mm fork so head and seat angles are a little steeper than I would like. Maybe Santa will help out with this…
Hope this helps!
BootsyPosted 2 months agopslingSubscriber
chestrockwell – Member
As a point of order the p7 was never a xc bike. It was always meant to be ridden hard and other Orange bikes filled the xc position.
Surprised to read this. They were incredibly popular in the xc scene back in the 90s. Regularly seen at xc events along with the Clockwork.Posted 2 months agochestrockwellMember
From memory the Clockwork was obviously the first (1988) and was designed as a do it all at a time when XC was basically what you had. The Prestige was then released (1989 or 90?)as a premium Clockwork, same geometry just lighter and more expensive.
By the time the P7 was released (1993) Orange had the XC market covered with the Elite and Vit-T so the P7 was described as a ‘harder’ Clockwork. Not built to be a super light XC bike but built tough to stand up to anything at a time when race bikes were getting silly light and only meant to last a season. Many did race them as they were strong, dependable and relatively affordable for the average Joe but they were all rounders rather than XC bikes.
Just as the Prestige had been the P7 was a Clockwork+ but just better in different areas. It evolved over the years but never really became Oranges XC model and if you go back to the first one I think the current version fits perfectly in to the original thinking.Posted 2 months ago
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