- Orange Five Pro v Zesty 514 v Pitch Pro
No experience of the pitch but have ridden the lapierre and the orange.
I’m 5’7″, 72 kg’s, mainly ride trail centres and pick up my new 17″ Five tomorrow!
I enjoy the climbs so expected to prefer the zesty based on reviews but in my opinion the five was much better uphill.
If you’re in that price bracket and like the up’s, have a look at the Santa cruz nickel, the marketing is right ‘it descends like bigger bike than it is’ deliberated over this and the five for about a week and it was a very close call.Posted 6 years agoHob NobMember
I had a Zesty. It was alright. Didn’t like going down too much, and the super long chainstays made for interesting handling (from someone who races DH’s perspective anyway).
Tried a friends 5, and ended up buying one. The Maxle back end makes it a lot stiffer, and the shorter stays make it a lot more playful. Seems to fit me better too.Posted 6 years ago
Hi, would appreciate any advice on these three bikes from owners.I have ridden the Five and Zesty and they are both excellent. I’m 5ft7 and weigh about 64kg. My riding is pretty basic but improving, I don’t do huge jumps or drops and enjoy a good climb!
Looking to buy a do-it-all bike as I’m off to Morzine for a week but mainly ride in Surrey, Swinley and other local trails.
Thanks!Posted 6 years agoOxboyMember
I love my Pitch pro, fantastic do it all bike!
I asked Guy Kesteven what he thought of them on facebook heres his reply ‘Congrats on getting a Pitch Pro. The only reason that wasn’t one of the shortlisted bikes in the WMB bike of the year was because Spesh told us they weren’t going to get anymore. Eejits!
Anyway you are lucky enough to have one!’
That was a good enough recommendation to me, he’s ridden 1,000’s of bikes!
I can’t imagine any of those 3 bikes being rubbish though 😀Posted 6 years agoian martinSubscriber
They are not what i would call all’rounders.Posted 6 years ago
I’ve got a five and is amazing at trail centers with a winch to the tip and plummet to the bottom.
But for a xc ride round where I live it sucks the life out the ride.
It just make everything sooooo easy and my Soul is so much more fun at general riding.
My pal has a Trek Fuel and he rides it everywhere, but for me I’d stick to a 100mm ish full suss like an Orange ST4 or something similar.MoonheadMember
the Five felt like a pair of old boots
Spot on! I was trying to think of a concise way of describing how they feel and that’s pretty good.
You might not want to do drops and jumps now, a year ago I didn’t either but things change and if/when you do, you could do a lot worse than a 5 to help you develop your skills. I’m not saying you won’t find that with any other bike ever! But from my experience the 5 has made it feel really natural.
One more thing….
But for a xc ride round where I live it sucks the life out the ride.
I disagree,unless you live somewhere totally flat, it might be forgiving but that just makes me want to push it harder and that where the real fun begins and where the bike excels.
The only downside is no one will like you.
Yep, but you won’t care.Posted 6 years ago
Much as I hate to disappoint you JP, Orange don’t make a 17″ 5.Posted 6 years ago
They go from 16 to 18 to 20″ frames.
If you’ve been sold a 17″ frame the shop needs some staff that know their stuff.
The Nickel climbs well, but has a poor stock fork fitted in the shape of the Sektor R. IT has no damping that I could find, and it dived under braking and bump response which left the bike feeling like the front end was too low, pitching the rider over the front of the bike.
With a better fork, the bike would be excellent.
If you’re thiniking about the Zesty, the Spicy climbs just as well and gives you 20mm more travel to boot.Posted 6 years ago
I rode on the MBR test in 2008 which put the Zesty against the 5 and a few other bikes.
The Zesty felt more like my Coiler than a trail bike on th climbs and descents, although it was a bit quicker overall.
I changed mt Coler for a 5 after that test, and haven’t regretted it at all.BagstardMember
I haven’t ridden the zesty or the five, but love my pitch. After selling my DH bike it now has to cover as a mini DH bike and it is fantastic, although admittedly the only original part is the frame. Even with my climb compromising spec it was still great fun at Dalbeattie recently, particularly when pointed downhill. Oh and don’t forget that Specialized warranty is one of the best out there, not sure I would say the same of a certain British company.Posted 6 years ago
i really like the new Trek’s miself,not the fashion at the minute though..
Why is that? 18 months ago the Fuel EX was the bike to have … two mates of mine have ’em & love ’em … they’re obviously good bikes, but they don’t get a mention anymore.
fashion changes.what will take over from the 5?
im probably wrong though,just my 2 cents worth :-),its all 5’s 5’s 5’s init!.. their marketing strategy is a good un.Posted 6 years agoMatt24kSubscriber
A 17 inch Orange 5 has been a special order “Strange” option for some time. A sort of custom half way house between the 16 and the 18. I was offered a 17 option earlier this year. For the 2012 madel year the 17 is a standard size. From the Orange web site:
Frame Size 14″ 16″ 17″ 18″ 20″ 22″
C. Top Tube 542 557 570 576 596 616
D. Effective TT 564 582 602 602 620 640
G. Head Tube 120 130 130 130 150 170
H. Wheelbase 1096 1116 1140 1140 1160 1175
Standover 680 716 735 755 791 820
You can see the differnces between the 16, 17 and 18 are small but could make all the difference. I’m 5’7″ and ended up going for the 16 and with the addition of a dropper post it fits me spot on for the various types of riding I do. That was Holmbury Hill yesterday, local trails on Sunday and the Brighton Big Dog next Saturday.Posted 6 years agostuartm555Member
I had the same dilemma a few months ago and actually ignored the pitch at first because I really disliked specialized.
I test rode 2 zestys and the orange 5 and 5am in various sizes but couldn’t decide what to buy. Also test rode a lot of £3k+ bikes but finally gave the pitch a go and bought it straight away!
Of course the price of £1700 had nothing to do with my decision 🙂 they even gave me £170 of free bike bits!Posted 6 years agoSpinMember
I love my Zesty but only on the gnarl. The dude above that said such bikes suck the fun out of less technical stuff was right IMO. However, if you like to ride in the alps and only have one bike then I doubt you’ll be disappointed by either Zesty or 5. I think anyone with really polarised opinions on such things (and there are a few above) either hasn’t ridden both or is into the princess and the pea terrain.Posted 6 years agoSpinMember
You know the story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Pea
Basically being over sensitive.Posted 6 years agofbkMember
This thread is amazing – even by STW standards. So many polarised views made interesting because I’ve ridden 2 of the bikes being discussed. Some of the comments made I agree with, some I totally disagree – just shows you how subjective riding a bike is.
FWIW, I’ve got a Zesty and bought it after riding several mates Fives and demoing a Zesty (and a Spicy which felt great on the DHs but heavy on the ups). The Five is an amazing bike and a great all-rounder for such a simple design. The Zesty is just that little bit more “fun”. It feels lighter & more chuckable on the DHs and the climbs just feel like you’re cheating – I’ve got it up things I’d struggle to ride on my HT. It also soaks up small high frequency stuff better…….all IMHO obviously!
I guess the key fact is you can’t beat a test ride, especially when laying out that much cash.Posted 6 years agoDelSubscriber
don’t forget that Specialized warranty is one of the best out there, not sure I would say the same of a certain British company.
hmm. chap i know recently attempted to get a warranty replacement from spesh on a 4-5 year old frame ( ‘lifetime warranty’ ), as he’d bust the swing-arm. was told that the swing-arm is not part of the frame. 🙄Posted 6 years ago
If you end up choosing a Zesty, now’s the time to buy … Discounts on 2011 Zesty’s have started to be advertised … 10% at Evans for 514, 714 & 914 but you can get better.Posted 6 years ago
I got 18% & i950r included earlier in the year – so better deals will be available now.
2012 has been altered a little, geometry, bb height, chainstay design …gilding the lilly? Depends on your point of reference.
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