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  • honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    I was very interested in this, until…..

    EDC

    $59 for the tool, plus $25 for the top cap and another $35 for the tap to thread the end of your steerer.

    Bit steep I think. I’d have lived with a top cap that didn’t tension the headset and was held on with grub screws

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    Aye the dedicated tool puts me off but it does look pretty clever

    akira
    Full Member

    I think the tool that goes on your bb axle look a bit neater and no need to muck about threading stuff.

    Rik
    Free Member

    Manufacture A – spend millions in FEA testing to make the lightest strongest steerer tube possible and adds a long warranty into the package

    Manufacture B – spends thousands on new must have ENDURO cool as f#ck product. Which invalidates manufacture A warranty, development time and effort and cuts threads into the most important safety critical part of the whole bike.

    World gone mad, is it the early 90s again and we’re going to drill holes in our seat posts and stems again!

    P-Jay
    Free Member

    I like the cool factor of these and the one that goes into the crank set and the SWAT boxes etc, not sure it would do much for me though, my bike doesn’t have a bottle mount but even if it did I’d still want a pump, my keys, my phone and wallet so I might as well keep on with the pack, I do like riding without one, but it’s not all that life-compatible for me

    nickdavies
    Full Member

    That’s a lot of money and I’m not sure I’d want to tap my steerer. Specialised swat kit gives you all that (2 cages, tool, tube/co2 box, chain tool tip cap) for £100 as long as your frame will take it.

    andyl
    Free Member

    Manufacture A – spend millions in FEA testing to make the lightest strongest steerer tube possible and adds a long warranty into the package

    Manufacture B – spends thousands on new must have ENDURO cool as f#ck product. Which invalidates manufacture A warranty, development time and effort and cuts threads into the most important safety critical part of the whole bike.

    World gone mad, is it the early 90s again and we’re going to drill holes in our seat posts and stems again!

    But does less damage than hammering a star fangled nut into your steerer leaving huge scores down the inside but are widely accepted as being fine and go down much lower than the thread this creates right at the top in a no/low stress zone. 😉

    Bigmantrials
    Full Member

    i think I have read that the tool can also be stored within the new pumps too, so could cut down on items to carry by doing that. And save modifying the steerer, if that is a concern.

    honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    Thread on the upper few mm of the steerer wouldn’t bother me, and it was the neatness of storing in the fork that I liked. But doubling the price just to fit the thing puts me off totally.

    iggs
    Free Member

    I’ve posted this a couple of times so sorry for those who have already seen it

    OneUp EDC – now available

    The 2 units I have ordered have shipped but seeing as it’s heading to Australia (from the UK) it will be another few days yet.

    The EDC combined with a swat xc box is what I’ve decided is my trail gear solution. I’ll post all the details when I have the tool in hand and fitted

    oneupcomponents
    Free Member

    I was very interested in this, until…..

    EDC

    $59 for the tool, plus $25 for the top cap and another $35 for the tap to thread the end of your steerer.

    Bit steep I think. I’d have lived with a top cap that didn’t tension the headset and was held on with grub screws

    Thanks for the feedback. Our hope is that the tap would be shared by groups of friends or that people would go to a local shop to have the work done. It was very important for us to provide a professional tap to complete the threading operation.

    Cheers,
    Jon @ OneUp

    poah
    Free Member

    I store my tools etc in a bottle which is held in a cage – £4 and no faffing to fit. can hold more as well.

    Poopscoop
    Full Member

    Dispassionate first thoughts:

    Neat, expensive and unnecessary.

    (That means I want one but won’t bother actually buying one)

    😀

    iggs
    Free Member

    Evening all (from downunder), here is my First Ride review of the OneUp EDC multi tool system I purchased. I’m pretty impressed to be honest. I think the guys at OneUp need a gold star for this one

    Our Gear – OneUpComponents EDC Multitool system (steerer tube version)

    Have a look, enjoy 😉

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    How do you stop the tool from getting wet, damp and rusty from the open end of the steerer?

    iggs
    Free Member

    There is a plastic insert. It also holds the end of the tool tube with an o ring to stop any rattling at the bottom

    kiwijohn
    Full Member

    Didn’t realise they were available yet. Think I’d prefer the pump version.

    kiwijohn
    Full Member

    Hmm, pump & tool are $80Au each. Think I’ll sit this one out.

    PJay
    Free Member

    Maybe it’s just me, but I’m afraid that I don’t get it. It’s clever certainly but very expensive and strikes me as a solution looking for a problem (possibly something Dyson might design) when there are no end of rucksacks, frame clips, saddle/frame bags, tool bottles and good old pockets that’ll do the same thing. If you like wacky ideas someone already produces a tool kit hidden in a bar end and another that slots inside your bars.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    If you like wacky ideas someone already produces a tool kit hidden in a bar end

    I have these quite handy tbh- it was £7 in a sale mind so no dearer than bar ends at the time.

    Its just too expensive it is a great solution but at some price

    Also not much use for those of us with more than one bike as i wont be paying that per ike when i can just put one multitool and pump in a camelbak

    barbs
    Free Member

    You don’t need one per bike as you can get the top caps separately.

    agentdagnamit
    Free Member

    That’s solved a problem I didnt know I had until 3 minutes ago.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    still easier to just leave the tools in my camelbak

    iggs
    Free Member

    To those of you who just carry a tool in a pack I get that, I’ve done the same for donkeys years.

    I am really enjoying riding without a pack though. For me this really comes into its own on on bike parky type stuff or very steep technical trails. It feels a lot free-er.

    Having said that not wearing a pack does leave my back feeling less protected.

    XC racer types and DH types have always been more sand backpack than trail riders. I guess the modern Enduro bike means that trail riders can ride what would have been considered DH terrain much easier and as part of normal trail riding.

    For me and my scenario I’m enjoying not wearing a pack when it suits. I still do for rides where more water, food, clothing options, more spares, more tools, pump, first aid kit etc are deemed useful.

    Now for some pics (not mine). These are from Saturdays ride at Mt Narra which is classic Sydney Northern Beaches riding https://www.flickr.com/photos/yankinoz/sets/72157682364666932/with/35116007250/

    russyh
    Free Member

    Just clicked on the video for this on facebook then noticed the Pump, which would be perfect for me until i saw the price. Its looks a fantastically neat bit of kit but even for me the most die hard victim of gadget fashion its too much cash…Especially when i can tape and strap most of the kit around the frame for free.

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    Okay, I really like the idea of this and with Jon from oneup commenting here, there are a couple of questions I’d like cleared up.

    1. The blurb on the website suggests that you need to leave 5mm above the top of the stem. How critical is this as mine is already cut flush.

    2. Have any mainstream manufacturers commented on this yet? I agree with the comments above that it seems less damaging than whacking in a SFN but what are the likes of Rockshox and Fox saying?

    honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    Well, the 5mm above the stem is where you cut the thread, so without that, there’s nothing to screw the top cap onto.

    Not seen anything for fork manufacturers, but cutting a thread above the stem should be fine, there’s no load on that part of the steerer – I guess if you were to move your stem higher and have that threaded bit inside the clamped area, that’s a different story, but kind of unlikely

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    Does the top cap sit over the ouside of the steerer then? I’d assumed it was flat topped like a conventional stem cap which works without steerer protruding from the stem.

    kiwijohn
    Full Member

    Before there was One up…

    There was Cool Tool. Forgot I still had this, must be 25 years old.

    honourablegeorge
    Full Member

    Onzadog – Member
    Does the top cap sit over the ouside of the steerer then? I’d assumed it was flat topped like a conventional stem cap which works without steerer protruding from the stem.

    That’s how I understand it – you cur a thread on the outside of the steerer at the top, using the tool

    Your top cap then screws onto that thread to preload the headset, but leaving the inside of the steerer empty.

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    Threads definitely go on the inside.
    Perhaps they’ve specced the 5mm longer steerer is to make sure that the stem isn’t clamping anywhere with threads in it. Can’t see it being a problem myself.

    stevied
    Free Member

    Anyone know what size tap it is? Got lots of taps here at work so might have one to fit..

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    Maybe a better vid here:

    Definitely a faff, but they’ve designed the tools very well.

    andybrad
    Full Member

    that tap is effing brilliant.

    andybrad
    Full Member

    infact that whole thing looks really well designed (never seen one up close) but love it.

    too pricey for me though.

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    Local service guy has ordered the tap, so brings the price down a tad

    Speeder
    Full Member

    Blimey! What problem does this solve again?

    scc999
    Full Member

    ^^ Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    It’s expensive. I don’t need one. Some people have a dislike of riding with backpacks. Some of *those* people want to carry tools etc but don’t want to put them in pockets of taped to the bike.

    I’m pretty sure you knew all that, but just in case you weren’t just indulging in some bizarre inverse snobbery, I’ve spelled it out for you.

    HTH

    Si

    iggs
    Free Member

    I’ve had mine for a couple of weeks now. It’s been used on a range of rides and a range of mechanicals. I’m using it conjunction with a SWAT XC box. Means I have light inner tube, tyre boot, CO2 inflator, tyre lever, spare brake pads. Spare hanger is taped to the frame. Total weight added to the bike is probably just under 500g + up to 650g of water (this reduces to 0g as I drink it)

    The weight is all carried relatively low and centrally. I notice the weight (with water bottle full) when lifting it into the car but don’t notice it when riding. I’m pretty anti seat bag. I notice the increased weight when riding because it’s up so high and they don’t work with dropper posts and longish travel (160mm)

    Today’s ride was a long Northern Beaches lap with a backpack (water, food, pump, first aid kit, tube & various small spares). The bits and bobs on the bike would previously been in my pack to. I’m not doubling up on stuff I wouldn’t double up on anyway (e.g. Tubes)

    Last weekend we did some runs at Narrabean. Fast DH style riding not wearing a pack. I needed to change the rear brake pads and nip up the front 20mm axle.

    It’s handy just knowing the key items to deal with the commonist of problems are on the bike all the time. Makes it really easy to head out for a local ride without a pack or do DH style runs without a pack but not have to risk being forced to walk with a puncture or similar. It feels really ‘free’ not wearing a pack. I definitely notice a pack more now that I’m getting used to not wearing one regularly. When full of water it’s pretty heavy and in steep technical ground I feel it moving around a bit. Don’t get me wrong it’s not a problem it’s just I do notice it.

    Something interesting is just how handy the tool is. It’s literally just there constantly by your hands. I know it’s not exactly the hardest thing to pop your pack off your back to get at a tool for say adjusting lever angles on the bars or nipping up a front axle that hasn’t been seated properly in the rush to not keep riding buddies waiting but it is super cool to have something as ridiculously convienient after so many years of diving in packs

    I am aware that all this is all probably tainted with a big dose of confirmation bias (would this be made twice as bad because we’ve brought 2!!) but what to do, you are more than welcome to dismiss it all (would this just be an inverted form of confirmation bias to justify your decision not to buy one?? Ha ha, probably)

    benpinnick
    Full Member

    I actually love this, but them I’m a geek. Maybe one day we’ll offer it as an option pre-fitted on birds, plus the guys at one-up are pretty cool. True story:

    Me: “Hey its Ben from Bird, I’ve been testing your chain devices and I like them. Can I buy them?”
    One Up: “Sure, I will send you a price list for OE”
    Me: “Thanks”
    [ask a few more questions]
    Me: “Great I will get an order over to you”
    One Up: “No problems, how about we ship you a couple hundred now and work out the details?”

    That was it. More conversations since of course, but we went from Hi to no problems they’re in the post in a single conversation. Never met a company that laid back before. So easy to deal with and great products. If you can’t buy british, be sure that Buying One Up is supporting the good guys!

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