Olympic downhill course.,.
You didn’t really expect anyone to do something dangerous and exciting at the summer Olympics did you?
DH, dangerous and exciting? sorry i find DH incredibly dull, there might be a bit of danger granted, but it isn’t very fast, certainly not ski speeds. Although to be honest i find all TT’s boring to watch.
If you want cycle sport to look good, you need more than one rider on the course, be it BMX, Kerin, or even a road race.Posted 5 years ago
bren2709, i am perfectly aware of how they are riding, but i have to agree with TJ on this, MTB XC or DH is too slow in general, it just doesn’t work as a spectator sport.
To me, you need more than one competitor on the course at the same time so you can see something happen. Take a road race/track kerin/BMX/etc, lots of riders clear ability to see who is doing well etc.
Time trials are dull, be it on road or downhill.Posted 5 years agoTandemJeremyMember
I have watched a few DH races – even to someone interested in it it simply does not make a great spectacle – although DH is better than XC for sure.
A great spectator sport? Something with lots of things to look at and complex tactics going on, speed and excitement, something where you can see the whole thing – for me Rugby unionPosted 5 years agostevewhyteMember
I have to agree, i would rather watch road racing than mtb’ing but would prbably rather watch track and the big Hoymister power his way past someone at 40mph.
Funny i do like watching the big climbs on the tour, just watch in amazment at the speed they are going up 1 in 5 hills, very humbelling.Posted 5 years agobuzz-lightyearMember
I have really enjoyed following the DH World Cups since the webcasting and camera work improved. But I have to say that I prefer to watch 4X. The men’s final world championship run last season was pure drama.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ08P0WfPAY[/video]Posted 5 years agoproteusMember
Ok then can you explain how the World Cup at Fort William attracts 10k+ spectators for a dull boring sport?Posted 5 years ago
10k spectators at the highest level of competition in the sport (other than the World Champs)? roughly the same as Bradford City got in the fourth division of football. not much of a crowd is it?whatnobeerMember
Ok then can you explain how the World Cup at Fort William attracts 10k+ spectators for a dull boring sport?
10k spectators at the highest level of competition in the sport (other than the World Champs)? roughly the same as Bradford City got in the fourth division of football. not much of a crowd is it?
A better measure would be comparing the number of fans at fort bill compared to the total number of fans available. Downhill is a pretty niche sport compared to football so a 10k crowd is pretty massive.Posted 5 years agodruidhMember
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Downhill is a pretty niche sport compared to football so a 10k crowd is pretty massive.
Is not that niche as, apparently, the majority of MTBers like watching it 🙄
Sorry – I just don’t get the whole thing about watching sport (of any sort). I’d rather be out doing something myself.Posted 5 years agochamleyMember
I tried to watch supercross on tv with a mate who was a football superfan and he couldn’t see why anyone would want to watch it, found it mind numbing while I found it thrilling. Turns out people take different things from sport.
I enjoy DH but if you don’t know who anyone is and haven’t got any allegiances it can get a bit repetitive, especially if its a bad course.
But the football analogy doesn’t really work. I wonder how many people would turn out to watch Bradford City if they had to travel 6 hours each way to do it.Posted 5 years agosoobaliasMember
on tv… xc is unwatchable, dh is at best repetitive, 4x or bmx can/could be exciting but the sport lacks the depth required. most road racing is dull except the well edited/presented TdF but the cameras and crews have had 30yrs to deliver something ‘watchable’ and the race itself cannot be beat for history/size. Some of the track cycling can be as thrilling as athletics track events….. It will get viewers for the olympics but other than that you have to be interested, or the UK have to be doing very well for the average man on the street to care.
i hope the olympics xc course, can deliver something watchable, but im not holding my breath.
everything changes when you watch an event in situ, i would rather see the repetitive DH than sit by the roadside for two days to see 45secs of peleton go past – each to their own tho ehPosted 5 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
I agree it doesn’t make a good spectator sport- I enjoy it, but only because I love bikes and riding. How many non-cyclists tune into the downhill? How many casual cyclists?
In the flesh it’s very different, because you get the true impression of speed and closeness, and the noise, (and sometimes the ground shaking as they pass…) but the flipside is there’s quite a lot of nothing at all.Posted 5 years agomaxtorqueMember
More importantly, why are they going to “tone down” the XC course after the olympics? It’s not as if it is soooo hard core that only olympic level riders will be able to manage it is it really ??
(besides, they are going to be doing it as fast as possible on racy bikes, so i’m pretty sure the average 150mm FS AM bike isn’t going to struggle too much?)
After all, you can fall off your bike and hurt yourself anywhere, toning down the course smacks of H&S b*ll*cks to me !Posted 5 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
The trouble is, it’s a race course so it’s designed as a wide gravel path with occasional features. Take out the features and you don’t get left with an easier mtb course, you get left with nothing much at all.
But I can see why they would want to remove the hard lines, they’re a pretty big deal for an XC course and also, the difficulty of the route is so inconsistent- you don’t want something that’s 99% easy and 1% hard, it lulls people into a false sense of security/competence.Posted 5 years agoampthillSubscriber
It does seem stupid to remove the obtacles. On the other hand being the olympic course it will a magnet for the have a go crowd. The same features 5 miles from the visitor centre in Wales would probably be OK as the people reaching it are likely to be more experienced…
Having watceg Graham bell fall off on a “B” line I expect some of it will quite trickyPosted 5 years agoatlazMember
xc is unwatchable
It’s a matter of opinion surely. Some people find road riding dull. I find cricket as interesting as watching paint drying and can’t stand boxing yet I have close friends who love both. Conversely, I like watching baseball but most people outside the US hate it.
Horses for courses (I find that dull too) innit.Posted 5 years ago
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