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  • No sex please we're Japanese on bbc 2 now
  • geoffj
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    Some weird stuff going on! 😐

    legend
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    can’t be that weird judging by the title

    uselesshippy
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    Nope, this IS weird.

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    DezB
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    something tells me she’s told the story and now has half an hour to fill…

    footflaps
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    They’ve always been a bit weird. The vending machines selling worn pants from school girls tells you all you need to know about the Japenese and sex…

    torsoinalake
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    Don’t worry. I’m sure somewhere on NintendoGirlfriendsWorld they are discussing watching an episode of Geordie Shore, or even better, The Valleys.

    And they’re all going, “Weird. Thank **** for virtual women”

    Tom_W1987
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    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/young-people-japan-stopped-having-sex

    I can see the same happening here to. All the postdoc women I know are either

    1) Unhappily in long distance relationships that are probably going to fail.
    2) Single
    3) A small minority of the enlightened ones have started dating men less successful than them who would follow them from post to post.

    We’re managing to make a world where 99 percent of us are rats on a mill unable to relate to each other. The Malthusians will be pleased I guess, although I’m now starting to believe some of the NASA predictions that we might find ourselves the first species to go extinct because we stopped shagging each other.

    footflaps
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    We’re managing to make a world where 99 percent of us are so poorly paid we can’t afford time are rats on a mill unable to relate to each other.

    I believe this is the Tory dream…

    Tom_W1987
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    Yup, passionless and emotionless people don’t produce good art. Don’t push the boundaries of academia and most of all don’t push societal change – the people become docile, like domesticated animals if you will. They’re content living in single bed condo’s ordering take away pizza and jacking off to internet porn or playing Counter Strike.

    It’s also why Japan has produced **** all Nobel Prize winners but plenty of engineers who make toys for Sony.

    Welcome to the brave new world, this is what we have to look forward to. I’d rather live in **** Cuba than Japan. George Monbiot talks about rewilding Scotland, I think before we do that we need to consider rewilding ourselves first.

    Stoatsbrother
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    I challenge anyone who has seen the Shunga exhibition of Japanese erotic art at the BM to make generalisations about either Japanese art or eroticism. But something weird is going on.

    edlong
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    Crikey, we’re really going for the “stereotype a whole society / people with our prejudices” thing aren’t we?

    footflaps
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    Not just us, the Japanese government is very concerned and even suggested that Japan could die out as a race / country if the current trend isn’t reversed.

    Tom_W1987
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    I challenge anyone who has seen the Shunga exhibition of Japanese erotic art at the BM to make generalisations about either Japanese art or eroticism. But something weird is going on.

    And old exhibitions of Japanese erotic art have something to do with modern culture how?

    I was reading an entry in a psychology journal by a Japanese author the other day that was bemoaning exactly the same thing.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/28/a-color-coded-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-emotional-countries/

    Anyway, if that article is accurate I wouldn’t be surprised if Japan end’s up like Singapore. In fact I now understand the reason why I get on with Spaniards quite well, their culture hasn’t suffered/developed the same blunted affect as ours quite yet.

    littlemisspanda
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    Marriage has become a minefield of unattractive choices. Japanese men have become less career-driven, and less solvent, as lifetime job security has waned. Japanese women have become more independent and ambitious. Yet conservative attitudes in the home and workplace persist. Japan’s punishing corporate world makes it almost impossible for women to combine a career and family, while children are unaffordable unless both parents work. Cohabiting or unmarried parenthood is still unusual, dogged by bureaucratic disapproval.

    From the Grauniad article.

    Many of the same reasons that women in the UK and Europe may choose to opt out of marriage and child-rearing. Childcare is unaffordable, prejudice (Daily Fail-esque hate of working mothers) and the modern workplace demands make it difficult to combine a career and family, and many women do not want to stay home and raise children, essentially alone, while their partner has to work long hours as the breadwinner. It’s difficult for women to get back into the workplace after a career break.

    The Japanese corporate culture is far worse than ours – no flexible working, it runs on unpaid overtime, and taking time off for anything family related is frowned upon, because that’s the woman’s domain. Fathers are usually minimally involved in child rearing. This puts huge pressure on young men to achieve the kind of career success and salary that will support a wife and family. Welfare is almost nonexistent if you lose your job. Add to that the kind of conservative society that would frown on people, say, choosing to cohabit and live a DINK lifestyle.

    I don’t blame them for opting out, to be quite frank. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    Tom_W1987
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    Good post.

    footflaps
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    Add to that the kind of conservative society that would frown on people, say, choosing to cohabit and live a DINK lifestyle.

    Don’t forget to add in Cats. Owning Cats, rather than having children is where it’s at these days…

    edlong
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    It’s okay, I’ve just checked the internet and it seems the Japanese are really having quite a lot of sex.

    teamhurtmore
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    I lived in Japan in the late 80s and the sex attitudes were “interesting” to say the least. Shunga lives on in the everyday porn comics openly read on the trains, the Shinjuku night life and clubs a mind-boggling, some of the sex acts seriously disturbing and blatant sexism. Just like everywhere else then! Ok not porn comics but the text messaging I “watched” 😉 on the train the other day was pretty close!!!

    Stoatsbrother
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    Tom_w1997

    Societies have their differences. Lots of bad stuff could be said about ours. There is an interesting change going on but you are tarring an entire people with pejorative language and little evidence.

    There are also different ways of expressing emotion, and the English are hardly known for being in touch with theirs.

    And Japan has produced 20 Nobel prize winners you muppet. 🙄

    Northwind
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    And Japan has produced 20 Nobel prize winners you muppet.

    Boom!

    Japan creates great art, it’s just that we tend not to see it and when we do, we often don’t understand it, because it’s Japanese and therefore weird. That’s kind of what it means to have different cultures.

    wallop
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    This whole thing is bloody fascinating. I read the Grauniad artice with interest and shall catch up on the documentary.

    BoardinBob
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    It’s okay, I’ve just checked the internet and it seems the Japanese are really having quite a lot of sex.

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