- Nicolai – 650b – any views or news?
Thinking about a new frame.
650b looks like the new cool.
Love the look of the Helius TB but 26 only so far – will this change with all the other manafactures going exclusively 650b or 29er?
Any views on the 650b Helius? How does the geometry change using the different travel settings. Would prop run it 135mm more than 150mm but still want super slack bike.
Anybody?Posted 4 years agoprofessorfaceplantMember
i’ve managed to crack the chain stays on my AM!!
it was second hand and i dont have the papwerwork and after the trouble i had when i broke my cannondale i was expecting a fight, but Simon at Nicolai UK has been ace and long story short the chain stays are being replaced under warrenty, with no problems at all!Posted 4 years agosimons_nicolai-ukMember
Helius TB now available in 650b for size small and 29 on the larger sizes. On the current Nicolai range changing the rear travel has no effect on geometry (not 100% true but changes are negligible)
Nicolai’s *do* break – we had a poor guy on a 8 week old AM who rode it into a tree at speed and bent the front frame in half behind the gussets 🙁 Like everyone elses warranty ours is against production faults rather than crash damage. We don’t get many failures.Posted 4 years ago
Moonglu’s not to far away – might have to visit
Simons – quick response. Def don’t want a 29er but do like the lighter weight and reduced travel of the TB. Is there no option for the 650b on the larger frames think I’d either be a large or XL? Like the idea of the TB aswell as its 190×50 so I could get a frame only as I’ve already got a kashima rp23 and a ccdb in that size.Posted 4 years agomattjgSubscriber
finding myself a bit baffled by all the options at http://www.nicolai.net/110-1-Mainpage+Enduro+Trailride.html
what’s what?Posted 4 years ago
I have a AC 650b. Had a 26″ AC before.
Thing i noticed the most on it are very stiff rear end,New ones have Longer top tube and slacker head angle,makes the bike very stable at high speeds and is amazing descending,but still climbs like a goat.Posted 4 years ago
The 2 Travel settings make no difference to geometry.In my opinion i wouldnt run it with a 130mm travel fork unless it has a very long Axle to crown height,Bb height is quite low with a 150mm Revelation and i think you would run the risk of lots of pedal strikes if running a 130mm fork.
I am waiting for the new 160mm 650 Pike to land on our shores..Should bring even more fun to an excellent all round bike.
Can be built up easily to 28 lbs inc reverb.
Cool answer – don’t really want to run it with 130mm forks, but would like a 125/130 rear to make sure it doesn’t flatten things, but just takes the edge of at speed. But still want the slack, low and long. Hence me looking at the Helius TB – but that limits you to 32mm 130mm forks – when ideally like 34mm 140mm forks.Posted 4 years ago
Most 130mm forks that have a tapered steerer and 15 mm axle are pretty stiff nowadays.Posted 4 years ago
Would be a very good trail bike running 130mm.
I decided that i wanted a 1 bike for everything at the time.But now also have a Trek superfly 100 SL 29er as my XC bike,Its fast and light but isnt as much fun or as confidence inspiring as the AC for ridng,the AC makes you wanna hop off stuff and use Roots as small kickers and send it off small jumps and dropsduirMember
I have had an 2013 AC 26″ for a while and it’s superb. It’s not light (31lbs) but it rides light and will stay in one piece unlike my last frame.
In the short time I have had it I have done everything from 3800′ Munro’s and 6 hour rides to very steep and technical Scottish DH courses. It’s nothing short of exceptional and build quality/attention to detail is the best in the business.
The geometry they quote seems a bit off to me ie mine is slacker than advertised which I really like. My setup with revelations 150’s feels more like 66 degrees than 67 and when the new Pikes arrive shortly it will be even slacker. A bike like this is just so good at everything and if you run proper components and tyres it is fit for anything.
As for 650b I couldn’t say as I think it’s utterly pointless but each to their own. One thing is for sure, if it’s made by Nicolai there will be a massive amount of thought that has gone into it and it will be a superb bike.Posted 4 years agosimons_nicolai-ukMember
650b Helius TB question
– is it available in 650lb for L/XL sizes?
– Also what fork is it now warranted for? i.e. can I use a 34mm fork?
Would be a custom build (with £650 upcharge) so potentially could build additional reinforcement to take larger fork but would of course be weight penalty.Posted 4 years ago
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