- New Toy (Nothing to See Here Road Bike Haters)
I’m pretty sure neither Giant nor Cervelo are ‘open mould’
they are tube to tube wrapped joints?
do you actually know what “open mould” means? It means a mould owned by the factory and used for generic frames, with no design or IP from a known bike company, you seem to think it is something to do with monocoques and the actual manufacturing process?
Posted 3 years agoMrSmithMember
do you actually know what “open mould” means?
vaguely (thanks for the link) what i was implying was a frame made in a mould with limited fixed sizing and no variation in lay-up for weight/intended use or ability to vary geometry for the riders size. as opposed to tube to tube joined frames where all these things are taken into account and variable.Posted 3 years ago
i was implying the giant wasn’t a million miles away from the cervelo, both being popped out of moulds in Taiwan in their thousands (possibly even in the same factory).thisisnotaspoonMember
What crashtestmonkey said, and even within ‘open mould’ designs there’s infinate different permutations of layups and materials, so two visual identical frames won’t feel the same.
I think you’re implying in your last post that the frame’s aren’t customised to the rider, which whilst true, probably isn’t an issue as there’s 100’s of manufacturers producing 1000’s of designs in 10,000’s of size combinations, somewhere out there is a bike that fits what a customer wants.
Probably more ‘custom’ than building ‘custom’ steel bikes, there’ll be a few uniquie finishing touches, but they’ll all use combinations of the same few tubesets from Reynolds, Columbus, Deda, etc, whereas the designer/engineer at Giant might have entirely different ideas on how to make the tubes themselves than his counterpart at Cervelo.Posted 3 years agohoraMember
I doubt that cervelo has a factory making only their frames exclusively for them in Taiwan. If anyone thinks they do -well they’d have to be paying said factory a fortune.
Nice bike though- your saddle is soooo high compared to your bars/frame 😯
I’m a road newbie but is the frame big enough for your height??????Posted 3 years agocrashtestmonkeyMember
Hora, from my link
For example Cervélo and Scott have used a company called Ten Tech Composites to manufacture their frames.
Scott will own their mould, which they will have designed, as will Cervelo, and they will dictate the fibres used etc, and may well spec different lay-ups for different frame sizes. Factories like Ten Tech will own an in-house mould to knock generic frames to, for example, direct-selling mail order houses or new small start-ups who havent got the cash to invest in their own moulds.Posted 3 years agomrblobbyMember
Nice bike though- your saddle is soooo high compared to your bars/frame
I’m a road newbie but is the frame big enough for your height??????
Looks pretty good to me. If you are still comfortable and can make good power then a low front end is a good thing. More aero, free speed.Posted 3 years ago
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