New pic of the Codeine
That there Ed bloke with the beard has one too.
S’alright I suppose….Posted 4 years ago
Toying with the idea of a trailsy 29er and this keeps jumping out at me. (Along with a prime!!!) It will be Xmas indeed when it lands. Loved my ti456 and loving my Fireline Evo at mo too.
Any insight on where the £599 price came from and what shock is to be incl? Last I saw it was a maybe for a ccdb!Posted 4 years ago
Me thinks it a 67 ha, 440mm stays, 130mm travel. Think I read steep SA so guessing 73-74 def ish.
Be interesting to see sizing. Hoping for a 19″ large… Hint hint Brant. Oh and a bit of a long front end so ETT of 24-24.5″ be nice too.
But then design by committee isn’t really the way these things are done. Anyone got any other rumours on this?Posted 4 years agoSTATOMember
I find it funny your all begging for a certain geo when they are already designed and built 😆
Anyway, what forks are people going to put on these? I was tempted to wait as it seems like a good deal, however a decent fork negates any saving so have just stuck with 26″ again until forks are not stoopid money.Posted 4 years ago
I’ve nowt on today so I’ll drag out some reach dimensions.
That’s the only sensible thing to go off really.
£599 with a Monarch R. I hope we can do £799 with CCDB.
We are certainly going hard to the market with this one.
We priced a build with Sektors, Monarch R, X9 clutch mech and SRAM Mrp chain device, X9 hubs and Pacenti rims with Smorgasbord tyres at £1499. Or £1999 with hop ups to a Pike, Reverb and CCDB.
I don’t think we will sell millions, but it’s the trail suspension bike we wanted to do. Kind of stupid. Not commercial. But just no nonsense and fun.Posted 4 years ago
Reach Dimensions – horizontal from BB centre to top of head tube.
16in – 395mm
18in – 408mm
20in – 430mm
Which to compare with a typical 73deg seat angle gives effective top tube lengths of:-
16in – 600mm (23.6in)
18in – 610mm (24in)
20in – 630mm (24.8in)
The actual “angle of the seat tube” is 70.5deg, and it’s offset forward about 35mm. This gives a 73.5deg seat angle at average saddle height. Interestingly, even with 6in of difference in saddle height, the seat position only varies by 3mm fore or aft of a “virtual seat angle”. So whilst yes, a taller saddle will have a slacker seat angle, the actual seat angle you’ll feel only varies by 0.5deg. So shorties will get a 74deg seat angle, and lanky sods end up at 73deg. Which is why the larger size gets a greater top tube length difference to allow people that want to move forward a bit to move forward without getting things too short.
Oh yes – I guess you can see that the seat tube is straight – it’s a key point – as I wanted people to be able to drop a full length 400mm post right down, so those of us that can’t afford (or don’t want) a dropper post aren’t hampered by the saddle in the way. I see quite a few bikes out there that don’t have this, and it’s just a bit rubbish I think. Post diameter is 31.6mm. Our Neil runs a 30.9mm post with a shim – they are out there. The seat tube is externally butted at the top to guard against the odd cracking you can get on frames where you don’t have some seatstays supporting the seat tube.
Chainstay length came in at 440mm, 17.3in. Which gives 6mm clearance between the corner of a Smorgasbord the edge of the chain stay, at the narrowest point. Proper tyres. Proper clearance.
The suspension is optimised for a 32t chainring. 34t will work. 30t would as well I think (we’ll check), but 32t offers absolutely perfect performance in terms of anti-squat. The bike climbs incredibly well with a fully open shock, without any requirement for lockout or propedal.Posted 4 years ago
I haven’t got any issues with people drilling holes in it for Reverb Stealth running, and we were discussing doing that on Thursday. I wanted to run it externally down the downtube, then into the seat tube. Tom thought this was terrible and it had to be internal all the way from the headtube 🙂
It’s not going to make this revision, but it has got very well placed Reverb mounts on the top tube side.Posted 4 years ago
One of the great things about Specialized is that they have such a huge global market, it’s feasible for them to make bikes for people outside the bell-curve of what’s economic for smaller manufacturers like us. With a minimum production quantity per size, we’d have to order about three years worth of, say a 22in frame to make it worthwhile, which just isn’t sensible for us.
It doesn’t have bottle cage mounts, no.Posted 4 years ago
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