I’ve got a 5 and a new Patriot (perks of being an Orange dealer i guess!)
I have to say that the Patriot is pretty much gathering dust now that the lifts are shut. The Five is out and loving it – probably done about 3000m of climbing in the past 4 days – and riding down of course. There’s no way in hell I’d have done it on my Patriot (37lbs, CCDB, Fox VAN RC2, Dualply tyres etc).
I could get it down to about 33lbs with an RP23, tubeless 2.35 tires, and a Float fork. But, the carpark test of the RP23 had me changing the shock back to the CCDB. And then taking the Five out instead!
Having said that, I did complete some epic rides on the Patriot in the summer – lift assisted but with a good 500m or so climbing per day, and it coped – it does pedal well, but that’s well for a 180mm bike.
Personally, if you’re climbing the same amount as descending (i.e. no uplifts) – then stick with a Five or a 160, the Patriot is too much.