Ah ok. I’m sure the old frame were going for about £149, so is the fork about £100? Perhaps those were clearance prices.
I signed off the sample of this new version on the last day of the Tour De France last year. It’s taken us that long to clear through the Swapout models and we’re still not all out of them.
Yes – £149 was (is) very much a clearance price.Posted 4 years ago
Looks good, and the longer toptube would work for me. I wonder if the new tubeset is heavier or lighter? Fork appears more tapered which should be nice.
Top tube is actually a touch heavier as I wanted to oversize it to get more lateral stiffness to make it handle better. Adds about an once. A lot less ironwork in the dropout area though more than makes up for that, along with the lighter seat stays.Posted 4 years agoJamieMember
I was looking at the complete bikes earlier and failing to justify owning one to myself.
Likewise. Just sold my Giant Defy as want to get a something more allroundy, and this looks like it fits the bill.
Unfortunately, it’s a bit over my budget, as was looking at second hand market. Shame there are no 10% off codes valid. As otherwise, I would be marking the days of the calendar till the 12th August having made a pre-order*
*Assuming I am right in a 5’7″ shortarse needing a small frame.Posted 4 years agogrumMember
Ha, had an older ‘tea and coffee one’, then I bought one of the last lot even though I didn’t like the colours as much, as I wanted to get discs.
I then spent so long faffing around delaying building the wheels for it I’ve never ridden it and they’ve now brought out new ones with the original colours I liked. 😳 👿Posted 4 years ago
Top tube is actually a touch heavier as I wanted to oversize it to get more lateral stiffness to make it handle better. Adds about an once. A lot less ironwork in the dropout area though more than makes up for that, along with the lighter seat stays.
Interestingly the px website (admitedly, never accurate) states the swapout model as 2148g and the new one 2200g. I wonder which one is a blatant lie 😆
Seriously tho, it looks ace, ive not been so impressed by an on-one/px since my early model Pompy. If my new commute route is as bad/rough as i expect it to be i think one of these wil be gracing my garage.Posted 4 years ago
Looks more compact and ready to hit rough trails than my Pomp, whats the max tyre width on these Kaffs?
Says 32, similar to the pomp really. Not sure what you mean by ‘compact’, its a little longer but rest of dimensions are similar. Interestingly the Kaff has similar geo to teh Surly Crosscheck, BB height, angles etc. Chainstay is a little shorter so mud clearance might be an issue combined with narrow stays.Posted 4 years ago
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Why would you want 26″ wheels on it?
You already have a spare set of 26″ wheels?
I did this and use it as a tourer/commuter.
The main issue is the lower BB height with 26″ wheels which decreases pedal clearance, this is noticeable when cornering. I use mudguards so the upside is that toe overlap is not an issue.Posted 4 years ago
Brant – why did you go back to disc mounts on the seat stay rather than chain stay? I’ve got an airbourne with discs on the seat stay and its a pain in the arse to mount guards or a rack.
Chainstay mounted discs are great, but on chainstays below mountainbike length, and with road cranks, BB7’s can catch your heels easily. Also getting a caliper in there, in steel, lightweight isn’t too simple.
I hope to address this in the future, but for now, with the number of discable racks out there, and the relatively low amount of people actually running a rack, I think it’s a compromise I’m willing to make.Posted 4 years ago
It’s already only got a single eyelet so your already compromised if your expecting this to do ‘heavy’ duty. Add in the short chain stays, so heel strike with big panniers is a likelihood, mean this isn’t a bike for your next world tour. For commuting and winter miles, it looks bob on tho.Posted 4 years ago
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