- Neck Ache – Solaris
Just build up my new Solaris, most of the parts from the old one. 120mm fork. Have gone for a 35mm stem and 20mm rise / 800mm bar.
I’m on a medium, and am at the cross over point as to whether a medium or large would be better.
I am getting massive neck ache after every ride right now. I thought the front end may be too low, so have rotated the bar up. And have as many spacers as possible under the stem. No joy.
The saddle was slammed back on the rails too. So wondered if shunting it forward would help. No joy.
The only thing I can think of now is bar width, perhaps. I’m loathe to start sawing the joystick though….will perhaps try a 750mm I’ve got laying around first.
Is there anything obvious I have missed? I don’t get this issue on any other bike – (I have measured the others too to see if there’s anything vastly different between the set ups) just the Solaris!Posted 4 days ago
Old Frame was the Mk2 Medium (2016)
Old Stem – 50mm with 5 degree rise
Old Bar -740mm with 10 degree rise
New Frame is the Longshot 2019 (Medium)
35mm Stem (0 rise)
800mm Bar (20 degree rise)
Grips are not open ended, but I have tried (last night) to use the inner most part of the grips to simulate a narrower bar.
Fork is 120mm Yari…which can go to 140 with airshaft change (but I want 120 ideally!)Posted 4 days ago
Put the old bars on, or better still get some 760mm bars with more rise, or cut yours. Some cheap open ended lock on grips will let you move everything inwards to test before buying or cutting bars. And consider raising the travel in the forks… that will both raise the bars, and, importantly, reduce the reach.Posted 3 days agohopkinsgmSubscriber
I’m 5’11” so, on paper, I’m similarly between medium and large on a current model SolarisMax. I demo-ed both sizes and found I struggled to load the front end properly on the large – might have adapted to it in time, but then again might not have, so I plumped for the medium which is built up with a 50mm stem (top end of intended range, but still within, and not excessively long), 760mm low rise (10mm?) Race Face bars and a set of Yari’s set at 130mm. Some spacers, I wouldn’t want to swear to this, but 15mm under the stem and a 5mm on top of the stem sounds about right – whatever, it’s more than none but less than loads. I find it’s a really comfortable all-day bike, including a couple of weekend-away loaded-up rides on it last year.
*edit* didn’t think of this until submitted, but it strikes me as odd that you’re running the shortest recommended stem when you’re at the top end of the height range for a given frame sizePosted 3 days ago
@hopkinsgm – I demoed a medium and a large with 35mm stem and they both felt great. The seat is further back on the rails on the medium but that too feels natural.
I ran a 740 bar and 50mm stem for a few weeks from the old bike. But felt it wasn’t quite as was intended for the bike. Hence buying a 35mm that I had demoed. The demo bike was 140mm mind you.
I’ve put an old 25mm rise bar with 750mm width just to see if the bar width is the issue. Will change one thing at a time to try and pinpoint it.
Or maybe I should just buy the large!Posted 3 days agobonzodogMember
Are they straight bars? I ask as I suffered similar discomfort which disappeared when I tried some bars with some back sweep.Think they were Salsa Bend.
EDIT. Yep, 23 degree bend. Got them from here https://slam69.co.uk/salsa-bend-deluxe-bars-71465-p.aspPosted 3 days agorichieokeefe1Member
I’ve owned loads of cotic and can say from my experience is that they are very long and low . I’m on a flare max (small) 5ft 8 and to stop any neck pain or back pain is to run much shorter bars to bring you up more . I’m running 720mm which is crazy unfashionable but once I got over it and used to it , it was spot on . Never going back to wide bars again when most of my riding I’m in the saddle more . You could buy some cheap narrow bars with a big rise to try out . Also my bars are 38mm highPosted 3 days ago
The 140mm was fun Now you mention it. But the demo was in the Surrey hills which I get to once a quarter and the soutb downs twice a week! Which is def more xc. Wanted to do some marathon events on it which is why I switched from plus wheeled mk2 to the versatile longshot
Interestingly I saw a post by @Cy sayingPosted 2 days ago
It runs better as a 120mm – which made me stay with the shorter travel…
I’m 5’11 on a medium, with 130mm forks, 760mm bars, 35mm stem, a LOT of spacer under the stem. Moving to 140mm forks and a removing some of the spacers next. Large felt super long to me. An XL with 120mm forks has huge reach… I’d need to be not just a lot taller to ride that, but a lot more flexible and mobile in my riding.Posted 1 day agoslackaliceSubscriber
It all sounds as though the set up is too long for you OP. When I suffered from neck ache, it was wayyyy back when bars were silly narrow and stems were 150mm. Too much weight on my shoulders and neck and going back down to a shorter (at the time) stem cured it IIRC.
As you’re already on a short 35mm stem, as has been suggested above, raise the height of the front end and bring the bars back towards you. There are various ways to achieve this as above, try one at a time to see which makes the difference for you.Posted 1 day agonotmyrealnameSubscriber
I’m 5’11 on a medium, with 130mm forks, 760mm bars, 35mm stem, a LOT of spacer under the stem. Moving to 140mm forks and a removing some of the spacers next. Large felt super long to me. An XL with 120mm forks has huge reach… I’d need to be not just a lot taller to ride that, but a lot more flexible and mobile in my riding.
I’m 5’11” as well adn went for the large with 35mm stem.
Fits perfectly.Posted 1 day agofathomerSubscriber
Kelvin, what size bouncy bike do you ride? I’m contemplating a 29er hardtail to replace my old 275 Soul. I’d love a Solaris but don’t want it to be similar to my large FlareMAX. Might need to demo a medium as I’m a similar height to you.
Sorry for the thread hijack, good luck sorting your issue mccraque.Posted 1 day agoAlexMember
Hi @mccraque. I am the same height as you and ride a M Solaris Max. For info @fathomer, I also rode a M MK1 FlareMax even tho Cy always reckoned I should be on a large. Not sure the Geo on the new ones – only issue I had was getting a 150mm dropper in the M but managed it.
I built a M SolarisMax v1 for my daughter who is 5ft9. Fitted her perfectly. I also rode it quite a lot and it felt a bit small Definitely short. So for the v2 I looked at the numbers and decided the longer reach on the medium would do the job.
Ridden mine about 1300km now I think. Done quote a few long 6 hour+ days on it. Not struggled with neck ache at all. I have Spank Vibrocore bars with a 10mm rise cut down to 780mm, a 50mm stem, a 140mm fork and couple of 10mm spacers under the stem.
I haven’t ridden a L one to compare but I can’t see any reason I’d want a bigger/longer one. Not sure if that helps…Posted 1 day ago
When referencing bike fit vs height, remember that what really matters is your hip to shoulder distance – if you’ve got long legs for your height then you’ll normally prefer a shorter reach but higher stack frame and vice versa. I’m ~5’11” with ~33” legs and 455mm reach with fairly high stack and 40mm riser bars puts me in a good place.Posted 1 day ago
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