Most of the vagina’s on there, definitely don’t look pre-pubescent

there have never been any vaginas on NA

as for pubic hair – it helps prevent infection.

why have we evolved that the ‘vanilla’ position for humans is missionary whereas most (if not all) other land based mammals go doggy?

The theory I have heard and I have no idea how valid is that as the humans evolved to be more upright the spine / pelvis / hips changed shape so sitting down brought the lady bits into contact with the ground so then further evolution moved the lady bits further to the front compared to animals to stop dirt getting in

When hair follicles get infected.

Pilionidal sinus is more that a hair in grows under the skin, dies and then rots cos it cannot fall off leading to a massive subcutaneous infection

I hope you’re not trying to pervert us with your prepubescent ears

@Northwind bravo Sir, you have given me the biggest laugh in ages… and I really, really needed it.

there have never been any vaginas on NA

correct – thats the internal bit

correct term for the totality of the womans externally visible genitalia is pudenda but its never used, vulva is almost right IIRC but does not include everything visible on the outside?

Vulva is all the external bits. labia (major & minor), entrance to the vagina, clitoris and hood, the pubic mound and a few other bits I can’t remember.

Ta – its a long times since I learned that anatomy 🙂

@MCTD I’ve had several abscesses in that general area over the years, mostly when I was a kid. Was pretty horrendous tbh. Haven’t had one for many years now thankfully.

IIRC I was actually recommended to wax rather than trim or shave but I never really did it I don’t think.

……the fashion for removing your pubes comes from two many places

Its totally fashion and recent at that and comes from my imagination

Well, the Romans routinely removed their body hair. Mainly through plucking. Which in fairness does smart a bit. The perverts.

Ah yes -= the romans – those bastions of respectability and consensual sex with adults only

the recent fashion for shaved pubes is just that – very recent and don’t try to kid yourselves – its about appearing prepubescent.  Its not what people are pursuaded its about but that is the reality of its origons

I have often wondered how much pubes the sewage people have got :-)))

Toenails then. Any use whatsoever for the modern human? If I could, I’d have them surgically removed

the recent fashion for shaved pubes is just that – very recent and don’t try to kid yourselves – its about appearing prepubescent.

This may well be a fetish in Japan, but I rather suspect that its origins in the Western world is pr0n. Simply put, you can see what’s going on better.

The last time I looked at grumble I was probably still a student, I kinda lost interest in grot when I discovered real girls, but au naturel hairy growlers were definitely still the mainstream back then. Landing strips were just taking off (so to speak) and the fully-shaved foof was the domain of high-class rhythm pamphlets like Shaven Ravers. Oh, and Razzle, where you could just about see what the poor girl had for breakfast.

Toenails then. Any use whatsoever for the modern human?

Never dropped anything heavy (or sharp) on your foot? Stubbed your toe?

I thought the whole point of shaving was to make ones dong look bigger. That’s what a friend said anyway…..

Its totally fashion and recent at that and comes from a very dodgy place.

Only in your head. There’s hieroglyphs showing Egyptian women doing the same things; removing armpit hair, pubes, shaving legs. To ascribe it all to recent porn or “dodgy places” is a reflection on you, not society. Humans have probably always messed about with their hair. Some Irish bog-men have a sort of slick hair gel made from wax, meso-American tribes shaved body hair, to name a couple of examples. Shaving yer bits is just an extension of the same.

the recent fashion for shaved pubes is just that – very recent and don’t try to kid yourselves – its about appearing prepubescent

What load of tripe TJ, I’ve had girlfriends that have done it and their main reason from all of them was that it felt hygienic, especially when their period came round. Sod all to do with looking prepubescent.

Swavis -thats what the fashion industry has told them.    where the fashion has come from is different.  Its the truth.  People like those girlfriends have been conned  Its actually less hygienic., causes ingrowing hairs, more likely to get skin infections

Swavis -thats what the fashion industry has told them

Is this the same fashion industry that’s persuaded you not to wear powdered wigs, frock coats and tights? How about the idea that maybe, just maybe, people who decide, “you know I’m going to to do x to my body hair” just might be acting autonomously…like you’re oh-so quick to tell everyone that you do?

On another thread you were literally having a  pop a Molly claiming that bandwagon phenomena wasn’t a thing, “junk science” I think you called it, and here you using the same argument to ascribe just one motive to everyone that messes with their own hair.

“Anyone who likes shaved fannies is a paedo”

Stop beating around the bush TJ and say what you really mean.

Don’t waste the electrons; it’s just not worth discussing anything with tj after he’s decreed what the truth is.

TJ is definitely an expert on fannies.

Swavis -thats what the fashion industry has told them.

Aye OK then, you’re right, they’re wrong… 🙄

Stop beating around the bush TJ and say what you really mean

Very apt 👏😂

Really guys.  Stop inventing things you claim I have said

go and read up on this and read some feminist / sexual politics stuff

It does amuse me when you do not like the message you attack the messenger

Lets be 100% clear – i am NOT accusing folk of being peados.  the roots of pubic shaving are very clear and as above – but people have been indoctrinated to think this as something normal and hygenic when its actually less hygienic and purely fashion.

This thread was fairly light hearted and actually educational at some points until you dragged it into an argument….

Does this feminist literature really say that what women do with their bodies should be dictated by an angry middle aged man on the internet?

I’ve only seen Naked Attraction once and the woman simply picked the man with the largest penis. I won’t be going on the show.

This thread was fairly light hearted and actually educational at some points until you dragged it into an argument

Totally. I’d written it off as titillation and voyeuristic but some good points have been made about body shapes, what is ‘normal’ and particularly sexualities. The contrast to Love Island and other mainstream programming is interesting too.

but people have been indoctrinated to think

Apart from you though, right? Make your mind up TJ

I’d give you the point on ingrown hairs, but how can having a fanny like a burnt oot railway embankment be cleaner than a trim one?.

swavis
Full Member
This thread was fairly light hearted and actually educational at some points until you dragged it into an argument….

Time to roll out the ‘are you new here?’ question…

A typical STW thread goes through a reasoned stage, then some mild piss taking, followed by arguing over minutiae, then some nasty stuff before it’s finally closed. Standard stuff init?

Ooo and I read all those fanny related words up there ^ in the voice of Nurse Gladys Emmanuel. Phwooooorrr 😜

go and read up on this and read some feminist / sexual politics stuff

“Do your own research,” really?

the roots of pubic shaving are very clear

They will be after you’ve just shaved. Try waxing instead.

 but how can having a fanny like a burnt oot railway embankment be cleaner than a trim one?.

Indeed. Won’t someone think of all the homeless Pthirus pubis.

Which is more interesting than you may think. So, our public lice diverged from a gorilla species about 3.3Mya, so our ancestor species have had pubic lice* since at least then.

*head lice are a different species.

Didn’t the female GB track cycling team get told not to shave their pubic hair off as it was causing rashes/discomfort or something?

Never watched it, but I am sure that all sorts are drawn to appear. Although I imagine no skoptics. And why stop at hair?

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/84/12/4324/2864451

boblo
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Time to roll out the ‘are you new here?’ question…

I know I know, I should know better.

This thread was fairly light hearted and actually educational at some points until you dragged it into an argument….

Could say that about the whole forum recently IMO.

Middle-aged male fannies who need to have to have an opinion (and be right) about every topic that comes up.

Didn’t the female GB track cycling team get told not to shave their pubic hair off as it was causing rashes/discomfort or something?

Iirc, they were told not to shave it off as the stubble and regrowth caused problems. I’m pretty sure trimming was still OK, but over time the story seems to have been they told to go Full Mirkin

I was always under the impression it was just a nonsense story (about BC not shaving). Same as GB having rounder wheels etc.
As a roadie I’m proud to be shaved. Have been pretty much all my life. The making it look longer thing doesn’t work for everyone! I didn’t see the point in stopping shaving at the thighs so carried on, just became the norm for me. Certainly didn’t have any unsavoury thoughts about it.

(Ex wife hated it by the way!)

Does this feminist literature really say that what women do with their bodies should be dictated by an angry middle aged man on the internet?

That’s it for me. People being free to do what they want with their own bodies trumps any theorizing over the politics of muffs for me. Slightly surprised someone as right-on a TJ doesn’t also see it that way.