My Soul doesn't handle as I feel it should
I think it’s a mental problem, ie in your head. You’ve not built confidence in the new bike, just try sessioning a few corners building speed each time and try and forget about anything too technical re the bike
I have a BFe with adjustable 150/120’s on and it goes round corners in both settings (Bfe has same geo as Soul)Posted 4 years agosuperfliMember
Not sure what psi I used to have my old Revs at, but 80/90 sounds rather low for a 13st person? I have my Reba’s at 105psi after finding that just below 100 and the front dived too much and bottomed out fairly regulary, causing me to fly forward. Do you bottom them out regularly?
I also run lower tyre pressures. 25-30.
Try and see what you thinkPosted 4 years ago
My latest generation Soul doesn’t seem to like going round corners. It feels like it is going to wash out or go straight on and has actually dumped me on my ear on fairly innocuous corners. The forks are 140mm q/r Revs which were fine on the 456 that came before. I know Cy says 120mm is the ideal for Souls so is it worth spacing to 120 or fiddling incrementally with fork air pressures, + and – to see if this improves things. I am about 13 stone and normally run about 80/90 in the forks.Posted 4 years ago
I bought the bike after a test ride on a Cotic demonstrator with 120mm Foxes so I know it shouldn’t be like this!matther01Member
IMO Racing Ralphs don’t have the best grip in the world anyway. I ran a Hans Dampf front 25psi and Spesh Purgatory 2.2 28psi rear and the grip was incredible from the very first ride.
Tried a Crossmark 2.1 rear at Sherwood Pines last week and it was a little hairy in places and nowhere near as comfy…gone back to the purgatory.
I’d take confidence in cornering with grippier tyres than flat out speed all day long…but I tend to break bones quite easily!Posted 4 years agomintimperialSubscriber
I run 110-140 Talas forks on mine and it handles really well at 140 so long as it’s pointing downhill. I don’t think it’s the travel that’s the issue, although 120mm would be better all round if you’ve got the choice.
I also run a 70mm stem, it’s perfect for me. I’ve run a Ra-Ra on the front in the past and, well, I’d need to be a much better rider to be happy with that level of ‘grip’ in the corners (great on the back though). Put a chunkier tyre on there, that’ll help massively.
To be fair, if you run a lightweight Schwalbe XC tyre at anything under 30psi it will die of pointy rocks in about five miles or so in my experience…Posted 4 years agocySubscriber
Few things to compare with the medium Soul demo bike for you, then you can see how to tweak your setup:
Bar/stem – 70mm x 5deg + 710mm x 50mm rise bars. No spacers under the stem.
Front tyre – Hi Roller 2.35″, rear IKON 2.2″.
I think it’s been covered above, but before fiddling with your forks, try dropping the stem as low as you can, and try a grippier front tyre.
Drop me a line if you want to talk it through more. I would need some more setup details like your current stem length, bar spec, that kind of thing.
120mm is a good sweet spot for people not wanting to constantly adjust their forks, but with 140’s on it the main compromise is your seated position on steep climbs where the front can get a little wandery compared to shorter setting. It certainly still goes round corners great with 140’s on it, so it’s not your fork length per se, it will be something we can solve with your set up.
CyPosted 4 years agonickcSubscriber
If you transferred the lot from an old bike, I’m guessing the RR are worn out. IME they go from OK brand new, to only use on the rear when it’s bone dry after a quite short period of use. If you like schwable tyres, I found a RR on the back and Nobby Nic on the front was a good compromise.Posted 4 years ago
chilled76- I just couldn’t get on with the 456, it felt like a tank charging through things which I didn’t have the bottle to deal with.I had always fancied a Soul and a test ride really convinced me especially as I rode it back to back with my own 456. Nothing wrong with the 456 just didn’t suit me. Up to press the Soul suits much better apart from the cornering issue e.g. I feel better going up and down.Posted 4 years ago
Cy thanks for the input, I will have a fiddle and get back to you if I can’t sort it.xiphonMember
Sounds like it’s all in your head? Just get used to the bike.
Some can adjust quickly, others may take hours in the saddle.
My first ride (other than a car park test) on a new build was a full-on DH race… had to adjust (mentally) from a slack 8″ travel DH sledge, to 5″ steep steel hardtail.
(FWIW, I run 35-40psi in my tyres (Scott Cougar 2.25×26) on the XC wheelset)Posted 4 years ago
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