- My dear old things, it's STW TMS!
they were saying at tea that a bad session here could lose the test and 2 down with 3 to play is goodbye Ashes.
Need some digging in now……Posted 12 months ago
It’s not exactly looking convincing…
Cummins looks a handfulPosted 12 months ago
nothing shot, these england batsmen have all the application and concentration levels of my 2 year old grand daughter.Posted 12 months ago
Watched the highlights just now, and they showed a good few deliveries from Archer’s spell. Crikey! What an athlete he is – shortish run up, lovely and straight, so smooth. Cummins and Hazlewood are superb bowlers but there’s arms and legs going everywhere, Jofra is so smooth. Wrap him in cotton wool.
Granted Root got a good ball but he’s not exactly setting the world on fire is he? As per most England captain’s his average has dropped significantly when captaining and he doesn’t seem the most inspired when actually captaining either. Mind you, who else is there to do it?Posted 12 months ago
So BBC Sport are talking about how this could end up with one of four results. First of all, I’m not sure what the fourth one is, but that aside, is there really any chance of an England win unless they get a good few more runs then Australia completely fall apart when batting? Surely a draw is the most likely outcome now?
Former England captain Alec Stewart on TMS: “Absolutely even stevens at the moment. England need to be batting at lunch – can they get a 250 lead before bowled out?Posted 12 months ago
Best chance of an England win is the Aussie’s chasing around 240/50 I’d say and being unsure whether to stick or twist. Chances go up 50% if Smith can’t bat normally.Posted 12 months ago
greatapePosted 12 months ago
Win England. Wins Aus, Draw, tie are the 4 results
What’s the difference between a draw and a tie?Posted 12 months ago
A tie is when both teams have completed both innings and the scores are level. A draw is when one side does not complete both innings ie they run out of time.
Tied tests don’t really happenPosted 12 months ago
Ah ok. Like the World Cup final then.Posted 12 months ago
Tied tests – Benaud’s aussies v W Indies is the one usually quoted; may have been a few others but v rare.Posted 12 months ago
Given the way this test has gone it’s a possibility – but remote.
Great vfm for those at Lords today – and more of the same tomorrow.
Could be a great recovery after Edgbaston.
Steady accumulation without loss in first hour then accelerate until
lunch or 30 mins after, declare and go for it – use Woakes more.
Like the World Cup final then.
Pretty much although of course it was a limited overs game where wickets have no meaning
For it to be a tie in a timed game, both side must have the same aggregate score and have completed two innings (been all out or declared the innings closed)
If the side fielding fourth gets the other side out before they have got the runs needed – they win
If the side batting fourth gets the runs they needed before being all out – they win.
If neither of the above happen, and time runs out – it’s a draw. No matter how far on top one side or the other is
A – 250 all out
B – 250 all out
A – 250 all out
If B are 120-9 or 248-3 when time runs out, no matter how ‘inevitable’ the outcome would be, it’s a draw.
Now imagine the scenario above, for example with one ball to go, B are 249-9 needing 2 to win. All four outcomes are possible from one ball – if they get bowled or caught, or lbw etc., they lose by 1 run. If they hit two or more runs, they win by one wicket. If they hit the ball into outfield, run one and then stop – so ending on 250-9 – it’s a draw. But if they run one successfully (so it counts) and then are run out attempting a second – so ending on 250-ao – then it’s a tie.
It’s happened twice and I can’t work out if I’m surprised at its rarity or not. I guess not, as there are actually not many close tests that come to the wire. There are plenty where with a short time left (like say an hour or so) it could be tight and the atmosphere, etc. is very tense but most often there’s a clatter of wickets or a batter takes command and it doesn’t come close (eg: Oval 2005 until KP decided he wasn’t going to be the coconut in Brett Lee’s fairground game). There have been a few where runs have been got with a few balls to spare (England Pakistan in the first nighttime test of 2000-2001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOjHxYIF7h4
or where a team has clung on by their fingertips (Cardiff 2009, https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/may/02/20-great-ashes-moments-cardiff
but the only one that had that potential for a tie that i remember was in the 2005 Ashes (and even that was a 3 result option, was never going to be a draw due to time left)
Today could be a tight one though…..better go for a ride now so I’m back in time!Posted 12 months ago
WhT free vpn for listening to tms from abroad?Posted 12 months ago
Steve smith ruled out for the rest of the test with delayed concussion…. takes 100 off englands declaration 😉
“Headache, dizziness, feeling slowed down, feeling in a fog, doesn’t feel right, drowsiness”.
think I’d get him off for an mri/ct sharpishPosted 12 months ago
Good to see concussion being taken seriously these days and allowing a replacement that is allowed to bat and bowl also a good move by the ICC.Posted 12 months ago
Yup. That’s exactly the spot Hughes was hit at the SCG. I would be taking no chances.Posted 12 months ago
managed to get off nelson 🙂Posted 12 months ago
Might not be seeing Smith at the next Test, either.Posted 12 months ago
I’m not sure what rugby guidelines are but my son just got concussion for the second time diving. NHS guidelines are 2 weeks complete rest and three weeks before going back to your sport and then only if symptoms have cleared up. Friend is a nurse and involved with rugby and she left us in no doubt about following those guidelines.Posted 12 months ago
WhT free vpn for listening to tms from abroad?
Have you tried streaming from the BBC sport web page? If you’re in a country without domestic broadcasting rights you can listen to TMS.Posted 12 months ago
Good to see concussion being taken seriously these days
He should never have been back out yesterday. Right decision, but too late.Posted 12 months ago
Have you tried streaming from the BBC sport web page?
Yes and the sounds app. It’s blocked on both.
Edit I mean on the WiFi here. Can get it on mobile signal.Posted 12 months ago
Everyday is a school day, thanks TJ/jonvPosted 12 months ago
Declaration after Stokes gets his ton?Posted 12 months ago
Wonder if Broad has one of those spells left in him?Posted 12 months ago
As long as he keeps causing Warner problems then that’s good for mePosted 12 months ago
couldn’t happen to a nicer chap….Posted 12 months ago
the Jofra express, right on time 🙂Posted 12 months ago
Choo-choo!Posted 12 months ago
dangerousPosted 12 months ago
holy moly that’s quick……Posted 12 months ago
As Tuffers mentioned, its not just technical now, but abput bravery as well. Having grown up on a diet of Marshall, Walsh, Ambrose et al, its lovely to see such visceral bowling back on show.Posted 12 months ago
Pavel! What a lovley chap!Posted 12 months ago
Posted 12 months ago
The series moves next to Headingley, Leeds. With a PitchViz pace rating of 6.2 – it's the quickest pitch in England since 2005. Of the venues across the world to have hosted 5+ Tests since 2005, only eight have a higher PitchViz pace rating. #Ashes https://t.co/p4asyXi2i5
— The CricViz Analyst (@cricvizanalyst) August 18, 2019
Blimey Leach is bowling hand grenadesPosted 12 months ago
Come on England. 1 more wicket in next 5 min and they’ll start wobbling.
90mph+ on a slow pitch🏏🤔😯Posted 12 months ago
Is the measurement before or after the bounce? Must be before.
Speed is measured when bowler releases ball using a radar gun, I think.Posted 12 months ago
Inteteresting that Headingley has been measured as the fastest track in England; if true……
Speed gun speeds can’t be trusted, according to Vaughn they’ve been ‘adjusted’Posted 12 months ago
Test cricket’s so boring compared to one day bashing 😲Posted 12 months ago
How costly will Roy giving Head a life be ?Posted 12 months ago
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