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  • More importantly, will the cost of my hobby increase?
  • Kojaklollipop
    Free Member

    *So, now we’re out the EU, or will be in a couple of years, will the cost of bike parts go up? Shimano stuff is from Japan/Taiwan isn’t it so we probably already pay import, what about sram stuff? At the moment we can buy stuff from Germany, France, etc. with no import duty, so that will change, won’t it?

    What about those tomatoes from Spain, tulips from Amsterdam, etc. that’ll all go up won’t it.

    *admits I’m not really up on all the economics/import/export regs of this stuff, just thought I’d ask 😐

    chiefgrooveguru
    Full Member

    If the pound stays weak then anything imported will be more expensive as will overseas riding holidays. And there won’t be any more EU funding for trail centres. On top of that taxes/duties once we’re non-EU could push things either way.

    nedrapier
    Full Member

    Any increase in parts prices will be offset by our membership fee being freed up to pay for reductions in VAT and in council tax, Gov’t will continue to pay for everything the EU did, like all the trail centres. And that’s all before the new hospital a week!

    richc
    Free Member

    You forgot we won’t have to pay VAT on Fuel and all the current subsidies on Farming and industry will be maintained.

    The EU pot of cash is going to be like Jesus and the loaves and fishes feeding the 5 thousand.

    nedrapier
    Full Member

    Good job we’re not heading for a recession with less tax income to start with!

    P-Jay
    Free Member

    Any increase in parts prices will be offset by our membership fee being freed up to pay for reductions in VAT and in council tax, Gov’t will continue to pay for everything the EU did, like all the trail centres. And that’s all before the new hospital a week!

    Ha ha, you had me going until you said the hospital bit.

    In short, no one knows anything yet.

    £ has recovered slightly from its initial fall is currently 4.6% down on the day so in theory anything from Europe will be 4.6% more expensive, but supply chains are slower than that, we won’t see any change for weeks. We’re ‘helped’ by the fact that Brexit is bad for Europe as well as us, but obviously not as bad or the £ would be up.

    As for import duties, most of the stuff is made in the far east and subject to import duties and sold via UK based retailers so that won’t change, but it will effect buying from Europe – possibly.

    I know UKIP want to burn it all down, but Boris is treading carefully and talking up trade with Europe – the EU leaders want article 50 started ASAP because it’s hurting them, Boris is in no rush – anyway – it hopeful that we agree a trade agreement with the EU – they’ll want free movement to accept it, we really need it.

    Worst case is we fail to negotiate a trade agreement and fall into standard international trade agreements which means high duty and taxes for everything – might the EU do that just to prove to other member states how bad leaving is? who knows, we need them more than they need us.

    The initial shock has happened, and whilst it’s bad – credit crunch bad, it’s not apocalyptic – what we need now is very clear, very united talk from Tory high command about how they’re going to unfuck this whole mess – if they squabble and fight between themselves it will only cause more chaos.

    maxtorque
    Full Member

    This^^^^

    The government took approx £460 Billion in tax (income tax, business tax, VAT, Exercise duties) in 2012/13.

    If our economy slows, that sum reduces. In 2012/13, the EU cost us £11.3 Billion.

    Assuming that we stopped ALL that spending on the EU, and put it entirely towards the uk, that means Tax income could fall to £448 Billion and we would be par. That is just 2.5%.

    So, if our GDP falls by more than 2.5% we are worse off than before. (assuming as said we are going to get all the £11.3B spent on public services, which seems rather unlikely to me)

    footflaps
    Full Member

    they’ll want free movement to accept it, we really need it.

    100% agree, but probably 95% of the Brexit voters don’t want free movement (or rather don’t want immigrants), so either it’s a hollow victory, so we have serious change re free movement.

    cloudnine
    Free Member

    Does this mean Belgium beer will get more expensive? What about the price of bratwurst at aldi?

    philjunior
    Free Member

    they’ll want free movement to accept it, we really need it.
    100% agree, but probably 95% of the Brexit voters don’t want free movement (or rather don’t want immigrants), so either it’s a hollow victory, so we have serious change re free movement.

    Just tell the Brexiters that yes, we have free movement, but WE, with our SOVEREIGNTY, have CHOSEN it.
    I certainly wouldn’t want to make predictions, but there is a reasonable chance that there will be minimum impact bearing in mind the vast majority of MPs are keen on Europe, and the tight margin gives them a reasonable mandate to make minimal changes whilst respecting the will to leave the EU. Of course if they feel it’ll hurt their reelection chances, this will all change.

    miketually
    Free Member

    The government took approx £460 Billion in tax (income tax, business tax, VAT, Exercise duties) in 2012/13.

    If our economy slows, that sum reduces. In 2012/13, the EU cost us £11.3 Billion.

    Hang on, it’s almost like the economic arguments for Leave don’t add up!

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    they’ll want free movement to accept it, we really need it.

    Yes so along with a hospital a week that’s two gigantic lies.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    You forgot we won’t have to pay VAT on Fuel and all the current subsidies on Farming and industry will be maintained.

    Spot on 😉
    One thing that seems to be missing in the minds of a lot of voters is the link between taxation (and a healthy economy) and being able to build things/do stuff. Though going on current mentality why would somebody in the NW pay tax so they can build a road or hospital in the NE.

    On bike parts…
    The UK’s current trade deals are tied up in the EU. Time to negotiate those then from a weaker position.
    If the pound is weaker (and the UK has a trade deficit) the tougher thing will be the rises in inflation (and or interest rates) so your hobby could get more expensive but no issue as you have less disposable income.
    Add on if this is to be belived https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/the-decline-of-the-uk-aluminium-industry/
    The UK produces around 43,000 Te of Aluminium a year so most will need to be imported which again a weaker pound will not help so even home grown people like hope will have a raw material rise.

    Probably best to stock up and ride carefully

    kerley
    Free Member

    Simple answer is yes, it is very likely to increase. But then it is a hobby for people with relatively large amount of spare income so not really a big deal.

    Those who can barely afford to buy food are going to be hid hardest and sadly a lot of them voted to leave based on ignorance/lack of ability to see through the bullshit of what a dream world it would be for them with no immigrants as we all know all of our economic and social issues are the fault of immigration.

    Larry_Lamb
    Free Member

    Well now we’re free from the tyranny of the EU, we’ll strike amazing trade deals with the rest of the world, because we are Great Britain of course.

    It was all the immigrants fault they were so high in the first place.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    But then it is a hobby for people with relatively large amount of spare income so not really a big deal.

    A perception but not the reality, for the average person what does 2% on your mortgage mean or 2% increase in inflation?

    FOG
    Full Member

    Any money freed up from EU contributions will not, of course, be used to fund tax cuts for ‘decent people’ ie rich Tory supporters .

    Andy_Sweet
    Free Member

    It’ll all seem very expensive when the economy tanks and we’re jobless.

    legend
    Free Member

    Maybe people will finally stop buying Evils

    kerley
    Free Member

    A perception but not the reality, for the average person what does 2% on your mortgage mean or 2% increase in inflation?

    Nope, it is a reality alright. MTB is a absolutely a hobby for people with disposable income. People with no money and in need of a bike (to get to work for example) would be looking at bikes costing the same prices as a pair of typical handlebars for an MTB hobbyist.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    would be looking at bikes costing the same prices as a pair of typical handlebars for an MTB hobbyist.

    and plenty of people here don’t have that much cash and just one bike to get out and have fun.

    konanige
    Full Member

    To start I will say that I personally voted out, so its my fault. I resent people calling all people on lower wages with less disposable income ignorant or stupid, that is untrue, I see more stupid ignorant people in my line of work than most and most of my customers are ‘Well Orf’. What I would like to say is this, regardless of how you voted the deed is done whether it is a good or bad thing remains to be seen, but one thing is certain if we don’t all stop calling each other names like little school kids and pull our socks up, pull together as a nation, and work to make the best of it ‘OUR’ country will definitely suffer. I will add that I’m ‘OLD’ and cant personally remember having any trouble traveling round Europe before the EU freedom of movement existed.
    So come on guys we all have a common hobby so use that as a start to build a greater Britain!!! PLEASE

    I am now putting my head below the parapet!!

    fergal
    Free Member

    You have selfishly destroyed the future of my son and that of the UK and i’m supposed to remain civil to the morons that have facilatated this, while the leave campaign run about like headless chickens, not quite being able to comprehend what they have done.

    Greater Britain? for a start Scotland is gone you deluded fool.

    deft
    Free Member

    pull our socks up, pull together as a nation, and work to make the best of it ‘OUR’ country

    But if you now have to ‘pull your socks up and make the best of it’, that implies that you are likely to lose something through the decision and therefore probably didn’t vote for it in the first place. People who voted out based on empty concepts of ‘sovereignty’ and ‘taking back control’ are still going to be reliant on the realities of jobs and the economy.

    konanige
    Full Member

    Sorry to say I told you so but the above reply shows that we are doomed!

    Rorschach
    Free Member

    Is’nt funny that when there’s no one else to blame but yourself it’s suddenly ‘we’re all in this together so we’ve got to get along and make it work now’.
    You ‘took back control’.It’s your country now…..you clean up your own funkin’ mess.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    konanige – Member
    Sorry to say I told you so but the above reply shows that we are doomed!

    No just some people are realists who took a serious look at the implications of leaving the EU, it’s happened all this pull your socks up shit says is we don’t have a plan and really didn’t expect to actually win. The reality of exit is coming home, the reality that we can’t bully the EU from a position of weakness and can’t push out way around.

    In simple terms the UK now starts to “pull it’s socks up” from a position behind where it should and could have been. Starting from a position of disadvantage. The bigger concern is how think that we can start now and do stuff that we not doing already to make the UK great? Are you saying the country was slacking?

    nick1962
    Free Member

    To get back on topic-ish.
    Can’t we now make lighter frames for the home market that don’t have to comply with those pesky EU strength and safety regulations?

    konanige
    Full Member

    Right I’m gonna sound like the rest of you ignorant people and say if you don’t like the result Funk off to the mainland and see how you get on there. Arguing between ourselves will only push faith in the Pound lower and ruin the economy. As a confirmed ‘Moron’ I will be putting my nose back to the grindstone on Monday and putting roofs over the heads of those that need shelter, and food on the table for my children whose future I have destroyed. Hopefully all you Remainers will have **** off by the weekend and I can ride my bike in peace on quieter trails. Boolloocks to the lot of you I say. Off to sort me passport now as I’ve got to go over to Amsterdam to shoot my brother who voted in…..

    larrydavid
    Free Member

    I’ve read this ‘pull up our socks and make it work’ type sentiment a few times now.

    I’ve no idea what that means, but whatever it does, why not, before crashing it all into a wall, did the Brexiters not do that within the EU. “the EU is pump, but lets do the best we can with it”

    Thinking again, does it mean “remainers, stop complaining, accept things”? If it does, then there’s no chance of that. And why should there be.

    For many in Scotland its socks up, boots on and out the door.

    chestrockwell
    Full Member

    All this pull our socks up guff! Lol.

    You made the mess so get on with it.

    philxx1975
    Free Member

    I just paid 24.99 for some brake pads, no choice really as i had been to 5 shops and no one had any , I didn’t get a blow job but do fell like I got bummed allover. I put this down to us leaving the EU yesterday

    Yes its going to get more expensive and DEORE will be the NEW XTR

    philxx1975
    Free Member

    You ‘took back control’.It’s your country now…..you clean up your own funkin’ mess.

    however if it works out just splendid ….er stil **** you, I don’t think so , tune will change then eh 🙄

    alextemper
    Free Member

    What were the motives for voting leave for those that did? Was it based on reasoning or idealism? Given the events that have transpired since Froday morning, would you have voted any differently in hindsight? Would you vote he same way again should this petition generate a 2nd referendum vote?

    Going back on track prices will go up regardless due to inflation anyway so this won’t affect the yearly price increase we see put on the RRP. Exchange rates were always a risk before the current situation we are now in and contingency is built into the RRP costs. If anything it may be the maunufacturers that feel this more when negotiating deals for OE components than the retail consumer. More than ever me may find online retailers being competitive with their pricing to try and capture the market as a result of all of this knowing consumers will be shopping around more than ever.

    YoKaiser
    Free Member

    I wonder how it will effect the small businesses. Sam at singular for instance, just moved distribution to Germany or Cotic now finding more beauracracy to sell to Europe.

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