https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/09/mike-ashley-owned-evans-cycles-to-axe-300-staff

Pretty rubbish

That is properly shit.

Just read that, very sad news- that’ll learn me, I’d thought that there was a chance Ashley might improve things for the chain, or at least stop the rot.

That man truly is a grimey toad. I used to like evans (pinnacle mostly..) for convenience but I won’t be spending anything there now. Poor staff.

Oof, that is not good. I wonder just how many more/other retailers will be slashing numbers and changing contracts in the months ahead. I fear many more to follow suit.

Why? Bike shops have been having a good time of it. I see his point a bit around city centre rent, but the landlords probably have no sympathy for a billionaire. Really reckon he’d do just as well if he wasn’t an arsehole. Got that cards in his hands as there’ll be lots of unemployed looking for work.

Decent staff will leave, zero hour contracts only suit a few. Standards will drop and it will gain a reputation for poor safety standards and poor build quality.

Their target market will change and they will fight it out with Halfords for the occasional cyclists on a budget and commutters.

Hopefully it means LBS will profit from this. Let them sell the bikes on the Internet and fancy stores and the LBS will pick up the services, spares and repairs. Hopefully some of the staff too.

Is this because greedy Ashley is trying to squeeze labour or because the business is still not doing any better? The former will cause a downward spiral for service and the latter would be a really astonishing failure considering how busy most bike shops and mechanics have been in the last year.

Had a look at the website the other day, literally nothing I want anymore. Loads of Muddyfox crap has arrived. Range of mountain bikes has gone from probably 25 pages a few years ago to 3 now. I understand there’s a shortage right now but still.

You’ve got to wonder how accurate that article is though? Remember when SD first bought Evans and the news stories were stating half of the 60 stores were to close. Ended up that SD closed 6 stores. They’ve since opened 5 or 6 new stores elsewhere.

The arrival of the Muddy Fox stuff told me which way Evans was going. And the charge to get stuff delivered IN STORE!

Oh well, that’s Evans off the list then.

It does seem an odd way to go, they are setup to be a strong player yet year after year seem to destroy themselves slowly from the top

You’ve got to wonder how accurate that article is though? Remember when SD first bought Evans and the news stories were stating half of the 60 stores were to close. Ended up that SD closed 6 stores. They’ve since opened 5 or 6 new stores elsewhere.

That was a negotiation or positioning tactic to get rent down.
I doubt staff there are in as strong a position as retail landlords.

Simply off the headline, it’s seems crazy to slashing Evans of all things in the Ashley empire, given how cyling became so hip and trendy in the last year which lead to massive price hikes.

That’s a damn shame. The guys in my local Evans are all top blokes, and have seen quite a bit of my face in the last year or so, since all my LBSs decided to stop opening on a Sunday.

Evans used to be my LBS but when ashley took over it was closed up. The staff in there were always helpful and friendly. I feel bad for them.

I do think it speaks volumes about Ashley, he has one part of his business empire that as a market is struggling to keep up with demand, so he goes and guts it.  What a penny pinching ****.

I’m sure he makes money, but it sure is an odd form of disaster capitalism…

Pretty rubbish

If you want to know where the UK is going, look over the pond.
“America, a rich country full of poor people.”

If you’ve ever voted Tory, especially if you did in 2019 – you voted for more of this.

So glad I jumped when I did. a lot of the guys I used to work with (good guys) have jumped ship to Balfe’s.

Our local Evans (New Oscott) has closed a few weeks ago. Staff there were very friendly, helpful and professional. So sorry they lost their jobs.

I wonder if the prospect of having very little to sell over the next year is a factor? It’s all well and good saying the bike market is very buoyant at the moment but as the long waits for stock start to take effect there’ll be detrimental impacts on the bottom line.

Seems like a strange thing to do. I’ve worked for Evans in Milton Keynes and at quiet times we only just had enough staff to keep up. At busy times it was impossible to get anything done, it was all hands on deck to serve. Gutting that store of staff is business suicide. A lot of staff there worked “goodwill” hours after closing to get the shop clean and tidy for the next day. That won’t happen now. They have already lost their trade discount now they are set to lose hours or jobs. Sad

Wasn’t it another leveraged buyout arangement, so it now has a load of debt to finance?

If you’ve ever voted Tory, especially if you did in 2019 – you voted for more of this.

Thinks: “Let it slide. Resist, must resist. Do as weeksy says.”

Phew, managed to stay silent.

( nearly)

Better grab that last 2020 C2 Norco optic!

Jamj1974 – I used to use the New Oscott one a fair bit and found staff were excellent too . The shop has actually moved to the top floor of House of Fraser in Sutton. Top floor! Imagine taking your bike through all the designer clothing and up the escalators – My mate did that lol
The main mechanic left to work at the new Electric bike shop at the top end of Sutton.

Evan’s were my go to store in the past but charging for delivery to store is a non starter for me when I can get things elsewhere delivered to my door usually free of charge. I was happy to do a short drive to pick up items but I’m not doing that AND being charged for the privilege.
My group of friends all loved their cycling events and that generated a bit of loyalty when it came to purchases – all gone now and yes covid has obviously played a part in the short term but I always thought that under the Sports Direct/Frasers umbrella they would never return.
It’s easy to point the finger at Ashley (and I’m sure his ethos permeates down through the business) but realistically its his business managers making these decisions and you have to question their direction/competence.
Evan’s could have easily become another CRC/Wiggle but they seem to have chosen to become a down market version of Halfords selling cheap rubbish and I dont think they will survive that decision in the long term.
If I remember correctly weren’t they making a reasonable profit if you took the huge interest on the debt out of the equation?

Evans has been ill served by iterations of owners.

I just can’t see the logic, ebike sales going up, bike sales going up, scale to enable it to compete. Buying stuff retail from Europe harder so less competition etc etc. Some rents maybe onerous but gutting the staff seems bonkers

It might need some restructuring but selling bikes and the associated services isn’t the same as flogging sports fashion

The guy really is a queynte isn’t he!

I see his point a bit around city centre rent

My local Evans only moved into the city centre from a location on the outskirts about 5 or 6 months ago. He can’t have it all ways! Actually, given the lack of union influence, sadly he probably can.

The staff are essential for the serving aspect too. James Olsen (behind Pinnacle bikes) seems to have gone too, which is a real shame.

Maybe he’s just more interested in flogging binnable tat.

I really hope that Pinnacle can get out from under Evans.

They make some great bikes (I have a mk1 Arkose) but I don’t think it’s a store I want to support any more.

Is this because greedy Ashley is trying to squeeze labour or because the business is still not doing any better? The former will cause a downward spiral for service and the latter would be a really astonishing failure considering how busy most bike shops and mechanics have been in the last year.

Simply off the headline, it’s seems crazy to slashing Evans of all things in the Ashley empire, given how cyling became so hip and trendy in the last year which lead to massive price hikes.

I would guess that Evans have done relatively well during lockdown(s) (compared to House of Fraiser?) seeing as recent circumstances have caused a rush on bike shops, But Ashley has probably been advised that 2020/21 bicycle trading conditions won’t last and so has decided to use the cover of the pandemic to hack away at those pesky staff costs…

The imposition of zero hours for staff suggests Ashley is happy to drive away any knowledgeable/enthusiastic personnel for bog standard, minimum wage, shelf stackers (like any other Ashley owned business).
It’s (unsurprisingly) short sighted, in an area of retail where quality of service and shop floor advice is the main USP that customers are willing to pay a bit of a premium for.

Deliberately eroding service for the sake of a bit staff cost cutting. if it’s a race to the bottom and offering cheapest possible prices, then basically it’s the wrong market for him to pick as He’ll be competing with the likes of CRC/wiggle and other online retailers, while still retaining the costs of (now poorly staffed?) bricks & mortar shops…

I bet he’s been planning this for a while, have Evans been taking advantage of the furlough scheme do we know? It wouldn’t shock me, keep staff dangling on a subsidised 80% retainer, and when that looks likely to end sack a chunk and push the rest onto zero hours.

It’s the kind of move someone who doesn’t understand the business they’ve bought would pull…

Sad news, but hopefully any staff who were wanting a proper job might find more favourable employment elsewhere as the sector grows overall.

Yep a real shame, I used to spend most of my lunchtimes in the Birmingham branch. I unsubscribed to the email this morning, I can’t support what he’s doing to a good brand. Not that there was much to buy from there anyway.

CRC and wiggle have gone down hill since the venture capitalists took over too, time for a LBS revolution?

Not that I was ever a regular customer, but I haven’t been in one (or on the website) since Ashley took over. The mere whiff of his involvement is enough to put me off.

This will come as no surprise to anyone remotely familiar with his past behaviour.

I was reminded how great the staff at the Leeds Central branch are the other week when I rang to enquire about a Arkose. Glad they sold out before I had chance to buy now and hope the staff are able to find a better employer elsewhere.

I tend to avoid Ashley Corp if possible but had let Evans off as they seemed to retain their identity. Not any more.

I’m not sure any of us is well placed to criticise this man’s ability to turn a retail business into cash for himself—his decisions may seem odd if you believe that the objective is to nurture a thriving and responsible specialist retailer, but I doubt that’s a concept that ever crossed his mind—but it’s sure depressing to see the country continue to creep its way towards towards an oligarchy that sees employment laws as merely a barrier to a quick buck.

time for a LBS revolution?

They arguably need to think about setting up distributor co-op’s as a way of gaining buyer power to allow them to get towards competitiveness with CRC etc

Works in other industries

They have already lost their trade discount now

That’s got to be a good chunk of any draw to working in a bike shop out the window. And possibly more importantly a big part of attracting the right people to the job – cyclists – people actually interested in the sport and equipment, with knowledge and enthusiasm for the subject.

Evans finally lost me as a customer when they started charging for store delivery of online orders. I was reluctant to use them after Ashley bought them but for some products I use they were the best place to get them plus I could swing in to collect on the ride home from work or with a quick 10 ride/30min walk from home. Really sad to see a good company being destroyed so quickly.

They arguably need to think about setting up distributor co-op’s as a way of gaining buyer power to allow them to get towards competitiveness with CRC etc

Works in other industries

Similar to what independent electronic and white goods do with Euronics would be my aim if I owned a bike shop. You keep your own identity if you want to, control your staff, service levels and opening hours but have access to cheaper stock. You can even go for a total branding as Euronics of you wish too.

Not that surprising. I use the one in Bristol as it’s near where I work but there are very few customers there and I suppose like everyone else they can’t get stock so they’re not selling much. That doesn’t seem likely to change any time soon when you look at ETAs for online store for products. It is a big city centre space any people aren’t buying much.

Also the Covid sales boom won’t last forever and again is no use if you haven’t got the stock.

Much as we may all knock Ashley he knows about business and probably has a good idea of where things are headed.