Moon on a stick tent time

Yep – I don’t get it either. I guess that, in theory, you could have the inner open and outer closed so that you have access to the porch but the reality is that the midge would find their way in.

I guess I’m out of touch, but the last double-skin I had there was about 6″ between the two.

Get with the programme granddad. 🙂 Are you suggesting that you should buy a tent a foot to large in each direction?

And FWIW, modern SilNylon tents don’t develop a leak just because you brushed the inside of the material

Some single skin tents are enclosed, but not if you use a pyramid for instance.

I think that anything that’s considered a tent (rather than a tarp, or a shelter) would be enclosed (unless you neglect to pitch the inner).

But in any case, if *some* single skin tents are not enclosed, that’s not a good reason to write *all* of them off because of midges.

Are you suggesting that you should buy a tent a foot to large in each direction?

If it means you can actually use the full extent of the inner, then it ain’t too large 🙂

Tents are as N+1 as bikes.

Anyone have experience of the Vango Nevis 100 compared to the Vango F10 Helium ul 1?

Ta.

Anyone have experience of the Vango Nevis 100 compared to the Vango F10 Helium ul 1?

No, but the obvious observation is that it uses heavier components all round, which is why it weighs more and costs less – the basic design looks pretty similar.

I have/had a Helium, didn’t like the lack of face / head clearance when sleeping, which made it feel claustrophobic for me. The missus adopted it and loves the thing. I prefer tents which allow you to prop yourself up on an elbow in your sleeping bag without finding you’re wearing the inner on your head. I think it’s a generic drawback with that particular design, but obviously not an issue for a lot of folk.

I don’t really get where the concern over midges comes from – single skin tents are still fully enclosed; they’re not just a detached ground and fly sheet.

On hot nights/humid afternoons etc = bake or be bitten? I know not all inner-tents have mesh panels/mesh-door/s options, but many do and IME (I run warm) opening up the flysheet to cool off is a welcome luxury if I can also keep the biters away.

Where (and when) one is camping plus whether or not such a luxury is worth the extra weight is up for debate with oneself.

Anyone have experience of the Vango Nevis 100 compared to the Vango F10 Helium ul 1?

IIRC from seeing two pitched together last year, Nevis is a longer but lower tent by a noticeable amount (like 5-10cm).

^ May have been differently or badly pitched (or bent?) as the listed internal heights give only 7mm to the Helium? ie

(Nevis 100) 88cm
(Helium UL 1) 95cm

Took the plunge on the Vango F10 Helium UL1 (what a mouthful!).

Cheapest I found it was at https://www.summits.co.uk/ who have an Easter 10% discount, even on already discounted items. Even got myself a ground sheet for less than £15.

Looking forward to using it.

Nordisk telemark UL2. I have one. It’s great and hits your things for 970g.

Perfect for one. Tight for two.

https://nordisk.co.uk/telemark-2-lw/forest-green/p/73/691

My recommendation is don’t skimp on space, whatever you get.

Nothing worse than a tent you can’t sit up in imo. I persevered for years with a wild country zephyros, wish I hadn’t! 😆

My new tent, is the naturehike mongar 2, basically a rip off the the MSR hubba 2, I’ve only used it once last year, but it was bang on, the internal space is great. Carrying the extra half a kg or so works for me on the space/price equation.

scotroutes
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Yep – I don’t get it either. I guess that, in theory, you could have the inner open and outer closed so that you have access to the porch but the reality is that the midge would find their way in.

I guess I’m out of touch, but the last double-skin I had there was about 6″ between the two.

Get with the programme granddad. 🙂 Are you suggesting that you should buy a tent a foot to large in each direction?

And FWIW, modern SilNylon tents don’t develop a leak just because you brushed the inside of the material

biggest problem, I’d have with that lunar solo is it in’t free standing. And having had to camp on pretty solid ground becomes a bit of a flaff to get it to stand. Other more minor reason is the lack of how you can configure the tent, ie inner only or outer only, or just having the outer in different configurations.

Looks cracking from a weight perspective mind, just lacking a bit. Plus I don’t use a walking pole.

I bought the tent that was recommended to me within the first 10 replies. I’m good now thanks folks.

Thanks for all your advice and experience but I won’t be in the market for another new tent for a while yet. Unless of course I hate the Helium 😅

Unless of course I hate the Helium

As has been said, it’s n+1 time with tents…

I now have three tents, two tarps and a bivvy bag. Hopefully I won’t be needing another tent for a while 🤞

Pfft, you’re just getting started with that collection….

New Helium tent came yesterday, went up very easily. It’s similar to my Vango Banshee but even easier to pitch. Only things that I’d change/alter are the pegs. They’re very light but not robust.