Mitsubishi L200 or Nissan Navara..
Thats it.. simple question.
Need something to seperate me from the smelly dogs/surf/sailing gear. Something that can tow. Something that can handle a few pot holed lanes. Mrs wont drive a van.
These two seem ideal with top box on the back, but which one???
I’m really torn between these two vehicles and need help deciding.
(buying s/h by the way 06-09)Posted 5 years agodeviantMember
Other half has an L200 for similar reasons as the OP….stinky dogs, horsey gear etc….its the Warrior edition and lovely inside, leather everything, air-con, great stereo, reversing sensors….not great on fuel for the short trips she does but when we took it to Donington for the MotoGP a few years ago it was actually respectable on the motorway.
Engine was been trouble free….the rear suspension needed new shocks or springs a few years ago (cant remember which?)….and the steering rack unscrewed itself from the drivers side front wheel early this year, although we think that was down to the garage she used when she had the front suspension sorted….but we coudnt prove anything.
I like it and would consider one for my next vehicle, ideal for chucking a bike in the back….they hold their value too, lets just say they are popular with the travelling community and she has had loads of offers from travelling folk who want to buy it when we’ve been out and about.Posted 5 years agozokesMember
Our works Navara has had pretty much its driveline replaced after only 35k kms. A contractor’s Mitsu still seems to be behaving reasonably well after 250k kms. Both are pretty abused, but according to our fleet manager, that Navara’s not the first to have had pretty major mechanical issues.Posted 5 years ago
In contrast to chojin, bloke I know said the opposite, had a Navara, now has a Hilux. Basically he says the Navara was more car like inside and niceer to drive, the Hilux more like a commercial pickup. He intends to get a Navara again.
Fair enough, I guess it depends on which model years we’re comparing. Certainly the ones we have are the current gen as they get bought new and driven in to the ground. The Hiluxii survive much longer.Posted 5 years ago
In fact where do you put your bikes. Every pickup Ive seen with bikes on it, I think surely an estate car would have been more pratical… in fact any car..
I have already given a lot of thought into this and a pickup with box on the back is ideal for reasons explained in the original post.Posted 5 years agoTiboySubscriber
We had a Nav for a year and it drove very well for it’s size, we did 3k round europe over a few weeks and I didn’t even have a twinge in my back.
We had a 2005 truck, so the euro 3 engine which is better on fuel, and we blanked the EGR, got 37 on average over 12k miles.
We did try an L200 animal and the hilux but prefered the nav for toys and comfort, we had an aventura model. the other seemed dated in comparison and too work-like for personal use.Posted 5 years agoricdiggleMember
Had 2 Navarra Aventuras in the past. Great while they are working / under warranty and more car like than l200 or HiLux but very very very expensive when they brake. Which both of mine did all the time.
Will never buy another Nissan as after sales and local dealer were atrocious.
Had a Land Rover Discovery 3 Van for over 100,000 miles and was perfect if you can live with two seats. If your other half don’t like it, change her.Posted 5 years agoCapt. KronosSubscriber
I had an 05 Navarra for a year… by which I mean 6 months… since it was in the garage the rest of the time having many, many parts replaced.
Driven a couple of L200s (last generation and this one) and they are utterly loathsome to drive. The Hilux is now looking underpowered unless you go for the top end one.
Which kinda leaves the Ranger and the Isuzu. The old Ranger I wasn’t convinced by, but the new one looks rather nice. The Isuzu is similar – the old one wasn’t bad (and is relatively compact for a pickup), whilst the new one is a nice piece of kit. It is one of these two that I would be looking at now, and may well be doing so in the next couple of months.
Although I still say for most people pickups are not a good idea. They are so compromised in maneuverability (terrible turning circle) and ride comfort (since they are designed to carry a 1 ton payload) they just don’t make sense.Posted 5 years agodashedMember
Used to own a ranger – plenty of reasons for having a pickup, including muddy dogs and bikes amongst other things. I had it about 6 months and hated it. Back was too small to comfortably carry a bike – 2 bikes meant wheels off and other faff. For such a big (huge!) vehicle it had very little space either in the cab or in the back. No reflection on the ranger but more on pickups in general. And the ride was terrible!!Posted 5 years ago
plenty of reasons for having a pickup, including muddy dogs and bikes amongst other things
I dunno, I reckon their use is pretty narrow. You’d need to carry some heavy machinery or something difficult WHILST doing serious off-road.
Otherwise, carrying stuff is better done in a van or an estate. And carrying muddy bikes is best done on a bike rack! A good one mind, not a faffy strappy thing.Posted 5 years agodavidjones15Member
I dunno, I reckon their use is pretty narrow.
I want one because you can have one of these.
You’d need to carry some heavy machinery or something difficult WHILST doing serious off-road.
You really have a very limited imagination, don’t you? Try putting youself in the shoes of others.Posted 5 years ago
For me the pick up would appear to be the perfect all round car.
Drive around in comfort and with 4/5 seats.
Have a sizeable boot for storage without worrying about muck.
Stick on a rear box and have a healthy estate car.
Demountable for weekends away.
Hitch a caravan for longer journeys.
4WD for those trick moments.
Not so fast that I’ll lose my licence.
Nice high driving position.
This and more are the reasons why I can’t understand, and won’t even try, why people buy carpet lined estate cars then spend their lives worrying about getting them dirty.
You really have a very limited imagination, don’t you?
No, I have an excellent imagination.
Drive around in comfort and with 4/5 seats. FAIL they aren’t comfortable
Have a sizeable boot for storage without worrying about muck. FAIL smaller than a van
Stick on a rear box and have a healthy estate car. FAIL worse than an estate car in handling, economy, comfort and performance
Demountable for weekends away. WOT?
Hitch a caravan for longer journeys. FAIL loads of cars are good towers, if you need a gigantic caravan then get an SUV
4WD for those trick moments. FAIL it’s available on many other vehicles
Not so fast that I’ll lose my licence. FAIL so are lots of other vehicles
Good handling. FAIL it’s just wrong
Nice high driving position. FAIL also available on vans and SUVs
You might like all those things, but other vehicles do them better. As I said, a pickup is only best IF you need to carry difficult loads on difficult off-road.
Difficult off-road in general – 4×4Posted 5 years ago
Carrying loads in general – van
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