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  • Minimum alcohol price.
  • handybar
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    Pub prices have shot up in the home counties. There also a big trend towards food, so they are happy to lose the regular drinkers and replace them with families and noisy kids.

    Nobeerinthefridge
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    Pretty sure this doesn’t affect the home counties…. 😊

    irc
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    “Thread resurrection time as the effect of minimum pricing are being reported.”

    Alcohol deaths up.

    ” the figures show a rise in the number of alcohol-related deaths in Scotland between 2017 and 2018, from 1,120 to 1,136 (1.4%). ”

    As for the decrease in consumption? Consistent with ongoing trend before MUP.

    “alcohol sales have fallen in nine of the last eleven years, including a 3.7% fall in 2011, a 4.2% fall in 2012, a 2.5% fall in 2013 and a 1.9% fall in 2016. There is nothing special or unusual about the 2.95% fall recorded in 2018.”

    https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2019/06/alcohol-related-deaths-rose-in-scotland.html

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    Nobeerinthefridge
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    maccruiskeen
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    its very early to say there are positive or negative effects of it as policy. Alcohol related deaths (where they’re not the result of misadventure- got drunk – fell out window) are the result of years and years of problem drinking. People dying now are at the end of that process – what minimum pricing policy would (hopefully) do is reduce the number of people starting on a damaging path. You’d see the effect, beneficial or otherwise, decades from now, but only if policy makers tough it out and ignore meaningless short term stats.

    Nobeerinthefridge
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    Absolutely, we won’t really know for years, it was more in response to that blog posted above tbh.

    maccruiskeen
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    it was more in response to that blog posted above tbh.

    ahh – hadn’t notice the time gap.

    must have blacked out there.

    Nobeerinthefridge
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    🤣

    irc
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    “21.5% drop in AR deaths in Glasgow since MA was introduced.”

    Just Cherrypicking data from one city.

    “All he done is go to the data released in June, found the spreadsheet that shows the number of deaths by local authority area, and cherry-picked one where the number of deaths went down – against the national trend. ” “If he had picked Aberdeen City, he could have announced that the number of alcohol-related deaths rose by 51 per cent ‘after minimum pricing’. If he’d picked Perth and Kinross, he could have claimed that they rose by 76 per cent.

    None of this would be untrue per se, but it would be lying by omission. If we want to know what happened to alcohol-related deaths in Scotland, all we need to do is look at the number of alcohol-related deaths in Scotland, which is right there on the same spreadsheet. It rose by 1.4 per cent.”

    https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2019/09/minimum-pricing-media-fall-for-blatant.html

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