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  • allthepies
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    So the brother David (the good one) is off to join International Rescue, perhaps his nickname of “brains” got him the gig ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21950493

    So that just leaves Ed to steer the country round after the Lab landslide in 2015.

    When in his new post could Dave send Scott and Virgil over to step in and save us all ?

    stgeorge
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    Far cooler puppets than his muppet brother.. 😀

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    The more I see Ed the more he looks and sounds like Wallace…

    bol
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    All I could do was sigh. Could go down in history as the worst thing the unions ever did.

    khani
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    Could go down in history as the worst thing the unions ever did.

    +1
    He’ll be back when his brothers gone…

    rattrap
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    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4wdAVltmE[/video]

    grum
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    All I could do was sigh. Could go down in history as the worst thing the unions ever did.

    Yes Wallace is hopeless but what’s the point of Labour if they just had a right-wing Blair clone in charge?

    jekkyl
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    I’m a scoialist at heart (yeah OK what’s labour got to do with socialism anymore, but perhaps more than any other party) and so I do vote labour, but this guy just does not fill me with any confidence. He looks and sounds like a man just playing at politics. He has no charisma or presence of Tony Blair or any other PM from the last 20 years, even John Major. BUT who can replace him, he’s just gormless.

    scaled
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    the word on twitter last night was that Blair was going to stand in Millibands constituency.

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    but what’s the point of Labour if they just had a right-wing Blair clone in charge?

    Because the nation needs an electable social democrat party rather than an unelectable socialist party?

    Premier Icon binners
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    The none-hopeless Milliband (the one who seemed to get all the families brains and charisma) is doing the sensible thing and getting the **** out of dodge, to avoid the fallout when his useless, utterly pointless brother fails to win an overall majority against the most right-wing, nasty and unpopular government this country has ever seen.

    He’ll then return from his self-imposed exile to take over the reins, when the election is re-run due to the failure of the Vince, the leader of the Lib Dems, and Wallace to form a coalition

    He will then run against an uber right wing tory party lead by Boris

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    David was always very close to the heart of nulabour especially iraq, extraordinary renditions etc
    yet had so much more gravitas than brother Ed

    to be fair id love to say I worked for international rescue!

    IHN
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    yet had so much more gravitas than brother Ed

    My seven year old niece has more gravitas than Ed.

    Junkyard
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    Could go down in history as the worst thing the unions ever did

    It a collegiate electoral system and individual labour party members affiliated via th eunion [ through choice] voted. Its a bot OTT to blame th eunions tbh

    Yes lets all get into the perosnality and charisma as lets be honest that is what we want most in a PM – nice chap with a bit of presence about them rather thna policies…..I blame Blair for this “celebrity” vote off for PM. TBH as Stoner notes they need to appeal to the Shire voters tbh the ones who swing on such trivial matters as personality and someone eles deserves another turn

    I think his brother has no choice tbh
    Stay on back benches looks like he is sulking
    joins the front bench he is opposing/challenging his brother

    thx1138
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    Because the nation needs an electable social democrat party rather than an unelectable socialist party?

    No; the nation needs a viable left-wing party to act as a serious opposition to right-wing politics, which is just about all we’ve got left in the UK. Labour are spent as an ideological force; ‘socialists’ such as Diane Abbot (and let’s not forget Blair) are proof that it’s no more a party that represents ordinary working people than a cat is a dog (it’s got four legs but it’s not the same at all).

    That all we can realistically expect is another bland, spineless ‘social democrat’ party as the only opposition to the right, is truly depressing.

    lilchris
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    Is he going to continue to take huge payments from the company boards he sits on now I wonder?!?

    Maybe its just a PR stunt so we forget the above. Caring David.

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    nice chap with a bit of presence about them rather thna policies

    But Ed has no presence or policies.

    Junkyard
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    the opposition never have policies this far off from an election as the govt will steal the good ones and spend two years ripping the bad ones apart.

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    I quiver in anticipation…

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    the opposition never have policies this far off from an election as the govt will steal the good ones and spend two years ripping the bad ones apart.

    Yes… Dave won the election by staying schtum and not committing to any actual ‘policies’. He won by not being Gordon Brown. And Ed thinks he can do the same. Win by not being Dave

    Except…. Dave didn’t win, did he? Though to all intents and purposes it feels like he did. He delivered a hung parliament without a working majority

    And that’s where Ed’s headed. At best! Any politician worthy of the name ‘leader of the opposition’ should be running rings round this lot. with their ever-rolling incompetent omnishambles, their disastrous economic policy, and all round nastiness. Its a constant open goal! Labour should be 20 points clear in the polls. But they’re not! They’re nowhere!

    This country has never needed an effective opposition more desperately. And whats it got instead? A stammering, pointless glove puppet of a man! Who looks increasingly clueless with every passing day he fails to make any impact on the debate

    chewkw
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    Politician?

    Loadsamoney!!!

    😆

    Junkyard
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    And Ed thinks he can do the same. Win by not being Dave

    I am sur ehe will come up with some policies nearer the date but i imagine that will win him some votes as dod pasty tax and the bedroom tax [ tories hate it being described as a tax but i think it has entred the nations psyche tbh]

    The line about is there anything he can organise in a brewery was funny [ bit probably written for him]

    TBH A lot of folk still buy the labour ruined the economy line despite the tories and GO agreeing to macth their spending and it being cause dby the us sub prime mortgage collapse] so he has to be cagey – remeber he is only after the middle ground voter
    Its not like you or I [ or die hard lefties] will be so cross with him we will vote for the tories
    Opposition leaders always look weak tbh but yes he is certainly not dynamic

    lilchris
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    [ tories hate it being described as a tax but i think it has entred the nations psyche tbh]

    Labour never did this?!?

    I give you three letters.
    N, I, C!

    ernie_lynch
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    Whenever I get depressed at the seemingly endless tunnel without a light that is British politics, whenever I look at the state of the Labour Party and its leader who utterly lacks the courage to have any convictions other than those dictated to him by the Tory party, press, and establishment, and who inspires in me all the confidence of a petrified rabbit caught in headlights.

    Whenever I sink into the depths of gloom at the hopelessness of it all, whenever that happens, I remind myself that things, unbelievably, could have actually been worse. Yep, at least David Miliband isn’t Leader of the Opposition – something which very nearly happened.

    Ed Miliband’s faults are many and varied but at least he isn’t David Miliband. Not much I know, but it’s something.

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    Labour should be 20 points clear in the polls. But they’re not! They’re nowhere!

    I really don’t know where you get this ‘Labour are nowhere in the polls’ binners. Labour have had a clear and significant lead over the Tories for some considerable time now.

    Ed Miliband is by far the most likely person to be next British Prime Minister.

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    ……if only it was just about winning elections.

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    Whilst I agree that Ed is almost personality-less, I think it’s a fairly well understood opposition strategy of not standing for anything to minimise the chance of offending potential voters and just wait for the party in power to fall out of favour.

    Camerooon did the same prior to coming out as a raging right wing nut ball intent on persecuting the poor whilst fondling the love members of his rich mates (not that anyone was very surprised by that).

    chewkw
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    David Miliband will earn £280,000 at U.S. charity job.

    Sort the politicians …

    Loadsamoney!!!

    😆

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    Ernie – labour has a smaller poll lead than they had against Thatcher when Michael Foot was leader, and famously, Neil Kinnock! And we all know what happened there.

    For obvious reasons, polls never tell the full story. As people don’t tell pollsters they vote Tory publicly, as its like saying that that Jimmy Saville seemed like a decent bloke. But come the day, they’ll vote for them!

    Look at the Tories at the moment! Nasty, divisive and incompetent! the economy is a mess, but there’s no Plan B! And the lib Dems? Please! Yet The Labour Party should be 20 points clear! They’re not even half that! And what’s Millibean doing about it? Nothing at all! Not a peep out of the spineless little nobody!! It’s depressing that the Labour Party is sat there sucking it’s collective thumb, and watching impotently as the same old nasty Tory party systematically dismantle the welfare state! It’s frankly unforgivable!!!

    ernie_lynch
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    Yet The Labour Party should be 20 points clear! They’re not even half that!

    Yes they are. The latest opinion poll gives Labour a 13% lead over the Tories, and Labour has had a double digit lead over the Tories for some time now.

    Labour really couldn’t be doing much better in the opinion polls. A 20 point lead would be unrealistic and would not occur in a general election, British politics is not like that – parties do not win elections with a 20 point lead. And I wouldn’t trust an opinion poll which made that claim.

    For obvious reasons, polls never tell the full story.

    Well make your mind up ! ……are you bothered what the polls say, or do they give a false picture ? As it happens modern opinion polls are surprisingly accurate, which explains why people pay money to have them commissioned and why political parties scrutinise them so intensely.

    Labour are doing very well in the opinion polls and in all probability will win the next general election.

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    ……if only it was just about winning elections.

    freeagent
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    Saw David being interviewed on the C4 news tonight, I think Labour made a massive mistake in choosing Ed over him..

    …and don’t even get me started on the vile Ed Balls.

    breatheeasy
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    And the Conservatives still trusted to manage the economy better than Labour in a recent poll. That tells you a lot…

    ernie_lynch
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    Well that’s not exactly surprising. “We’ll do the same as the Tories only slower” is not the most convincing argument I’ve ever heard.

    Especially when it also includes the caveat “and we’ll leave all the details out until after we’ve won the next general election”.

    This is what happens when you lack the courage of your own convictions.

    Still, I’m sure it’ll be enough to win the next general election.

    ……if only it was just about winning elections.

    jonba
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    This is what happens when you lack the courage of your own convictions.

    Still, I’m sure it’ll be enough to win the next general election.

    ……if only it was just about winning elections.

    Currently politics is about not offending people and hoping the other guys do. Neither party has any real conviction in my eyes. We would be much better having people with conviction who can argue it out and give people a real choice.

    There are a few good people doing some good work but not enough.

    ernie_lynch
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    Neither party has any real conviction in my eyes.

    Labour might be ideologically rudderless, but the Tories certainly aren’t – that’s why they are calling all the shots and Labour are reduced to tutting.

    And btw, the Tories have “offended” just about everyone – teachers, the disabled, healthcare workers, the unemployed, caravan owners, charities, people with children, the elderly, the police, people on benefit, energy users, students, the scots, cornish pasty eaters, and so on. Just about the only people they haven’t offended are bankers.

    CountZero
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    He has no charisma or presence of Tony Blair

    But at least he hasn’t got an overwhelming messiah complex that leads him into an illegal war, causing many, many unnecessary military and civilian deaths in two separate countries.
    Or an acquisitive gargoyle of a wife.
    Or a personal fortune of tens of millions, spouting garbage to idiots willing to cough up vast amounts of money.

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