- Mile munching off road steely 29er frame wow!
Ok, it’s a ‘recommend what you ride’ post coming up …
My Swift has ‘old’ Jones Loops (with ControlTech terminator plugs giving me an extra 20mm out each side). I own, err, a few Singulars, and I’ve never had any issues with any of the EBB’s (which is only to say I’ve never had any trouble).
I run my Swift with a set of Salsa Enabler forks too, so I have 135mm OLN front and rear. I don’t go far enough to warrant needing to have that as a fall-back, but I could do. I use both Bikepack.EU and Wildcatgear rackless bags – both work well. The El M looks like a great bike too – I hovered between that and the Swift for ages before committing to the Swift.
… But all that said, my world-tour bike would actually be my Peregrine (but that might be down to sentimentality as much as anything else).
😉Posted 4 years agoforexpipzMember
So I need a steel mile muncher. Think world tourer.
I like the idea of the singular swift or the salsa. It will be equipped with the new jeff jones loop bar 710.
What other frame options do I have?
Would the Jeff Jones diamond do it?
I’ll be rackless with frame bags and drysacks and ultralight equipment. Rider plus luggage less than 100kg.
Opinions please. Collapsible would be a bonus and I ride single speed but am thinking geared for epic bike packing journeys. Please help!Posted 4 years ago
Would the Jeff Jones diamond do it?
PopL, thanks, just my opinion on that kind of bike/use but I’ve not found a flaw in the bike yet. Bushnell is great and the bike is ace on the tech as well as on road. Bit over-attitude-ed for road/trail use in some ways but it’s still lighter than a Fargo and many others that are more road biased.Posted 4 years ago
A friend just got back from riding across Asia on a similar set up on his Surly Ogre. A rear pannier / rack may not be a bad thing if it’s really remote but I’d just add a rack and tie stuff to it if needed or buy basic bags out there.ratherbeintobagoSubscriber
Steel 29ers all tend to be quite heavy
Thick question time. Frame weight for a M SC Highball (which is about the only alloy frame I can find a published weight for) is 1.82kg; for this year’s El Mar M it’s 2.41kg.
Does 600g make that much difference?
Edit: Next year’s El Mar might be marginally lighter due to the shorter chainstays. Geo seems to be otherwise unchanged, though the frame-only option is what can only be described as an eye-searing orange. 2014 Salsa catalogue here on MTBR forumsPosted 4 years agoforexpipzMember
Heavy? Words like that make me chuckle. Behave. Makes little difference as a tourer. Especially when a litre of water weights a kilo.
The Jones is playful then? Perhaps too much so.
There will obviously be some road munching in abundance and perhaps the Jones will not lend itself in this respect.
Salsas are sluggish by all accounts and only start to shine laden apparently.
So its Swift, Gryphon or Jones. Cant decide. Would be great to hear from users with both bikes and not Full suspension mountain bike devotees who consider weight to be the deciding factor and totally disregard all the other engineering considerations.Posted 4 years agocaptainsideburnsMember
I’m not really into this stuff, but I noticed new specialized AWOL also split rear seat stay for belt drive…Posted 4 years ago
Probably not out till september
A Jones’s playfulness doesn’t detract from it’s road ability or feel, just meant if there’s never going to be any trail riding or downhill fun then there may be less reason to go for one. It’s still relatively light and very comfy though. Done loads of road miles on it and would still be my choice for a long road/dirt track tour.Posted 4 years ago
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