Mid life crisis car

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  • sharkbait
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    I current way of thinking is I can always sell the Cayman and get a sensible car later on

    Absolutely, just do it. If it’s any help I’ve found the Porsche ownership experience to be pretty excellent – I’ve had a Cayenne for about 5 years and they really do treat you well.
    Whenever it’s gone in for servicing, etc we’ve had a great selection of new cars to play with including a Macan Turbo, various Boxsters and two Cayman S.

    We had an interesting experience when my car went in for a slow coolant leak. They wanted it for a few days and gave me a 718 to use. After a couple of days they phoned to day that they’d found the leak – it wasn’t a big deal but I couldn’t have my car back until they’d fixed it so they’d booked the 718 out to me for another week.
    We were due to go to N Wales that week and I told them I could really needed my car to transport dogs etc.
    They said I could have it if I signed to say that I accepted responsibility for any damage to my car caused by the leak (it was under warranty) – which was fine as it had been ongoing for about 12 months.
    I then spoke to my lovely contact in the servicing dept and asked whether we could keep hold of the 718 as well seeing as it was booked out to me already. And she said “yes of course”.
    So I took it down to the coast with one daughter and MrsSB came back in it with one of the others….. and it was a lovely sunny week 🙂
    For this reason, if I ever get the chance, I would be getting one of these

    (although the Cayman is lovely also)…

    Whilst i would love the V8, here in the Republic of Brighton that is probably a bigger sin that voting tory, eating meat and being heterosexual.

    You’ve given me my summer road trip. I’m taking mine to Brighton, going to rev it up and down the front, eating a Big Mac, with a scantily clad lady noshing me off!

    *Edit – and a Vote Boris window sticker

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    *sees Kryton talk about changing cars. Backs away quietly….*

    Nah.  As much as I’d love a warbling performance car I’m happy with what I have.

    mrmoofo
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    Seriously, AFKASTR – Brighton Speed Trials.
    The Greens have been trying to ban it for years

    mindmap3
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    eat_more-cheese
    Whilst i would love the V8, here in the Republic of Brighton that is probably a bigger sin that voting tory, eating meat and being heterosexual.

    That made me chuckle. A lot.

    Premier Icon jamesoz
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    Absolutely, just do it. If it’s any help I’ve found the Porsche ownership experience to be pretty excellent – I’ve had a Cayenne for about 5 years and they really do treat you well.
    Whenever it’s gone in for servicing, etc we’ve had a great selection of new cars to play with including a Macan Turbo, various Boxsters and two Cayman S.

    Indeed, all my dealings with Porsche have been very pleasant. Always helpful, apologize that a part has to come from Germany so won’t be in until the following day! That’s for £30 worth of head bolts for a ratty old 951. Always get nice treatment, even in scruffy work clothes and spending pence.

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    If we are talking Porsche, I have a freind who has put a deposit on a Taycan and hopes to get one of the first batch in the UK due in May this year.

    His dealings with Portsmouth have been:

    Him: I have a Tesla P100D and want a Taycan..

    Them: We would suggest you sell the Tesla privately, we wouldn’t be interested in a PX.

    Him: Why?

    Them: We have our own market segment that doesn’t include Tesla, thats not to say we wouldn’t take it but we wouldn’t offer you anywhere near Market Value because to us it’s not worth the time dealing with Tesla for the supporting documentation.

    Him: I see, sounds like you have the same issues I have dealing with them.

    Them: Then you understand why we suggest you sell it privately.

    Him: How much deposit would you like, and where do I sign.

    Them: He is the spec system, once you have decided on the spec simply press save and send and you’ll get a build slot immediately along with the Project Build updates, build book and updates on distribution and delivery..

    Him: Ok, I’ve completed that and it says May2020.

    Them: Then that’s when you’ll receive you new vehicle, thank you for choosing Porsche. Would you like the experience day and pre-delivery hamper and welcome pack?

    Him: How much does that cost?

    Them: FOC Sir, we provide many layers of Porsche service and ownership benefits that you’ll become accustomed to.

    Him: Stood there gobsmacked.

    I was with him, it literally was that simple and that professional.

    I’m looking forward to the Taycan as much as he is TBH.

    piha
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    The Porsche Experience day is a fabulous day out, a couple of old racers are amongst the instructors at Silverstone and they are very knowledgeable. The skid pan really tests you reflexes and is great fun. Recommend your mate goes if he hasn’t been before.

    Looks like I might be in the market for a mid life crisis car. Was pretty determined to go EV ‘for the greater good’, but the ones I want are unaffordable, the one I can just about afford is a Tesla Model 3 LR, but trying to get Tesla interested in selling me one (or rather PCP’ing me one) is like trying to get blood out of a stone and their PCP deal is pretty horrendous and would cost me about £6k more compared to other main manufacturers deals. So screw them. SO for me it’s a last hurrah for an ICE car for the next few years.

    Would love a another Porsche after my experiences of Porsche ownership…though like James it was an old 951, but the local Porsche dealership always treated me well when I popped in for parts and gave me decent discounts…so no snobbery dished out. Would love a 911 but would be a 2012/2013 vintage so not sure if good enough financing deals for such a car would be on offer. My brothers got a 2013 Carrera S and it is just unbelievable. So looking at Boxster or Caymens, but the front runner at the moment on the basis the 911 is unlikely, is a BMW M2. They’re practically giving them away at the moment and the finance deals on them are rude. So taking them all for a test drive so will be interesting to see how a Caymen measures upto an M2. the ‘right’ Caymen with all the right options is £10k more than the M2 so I suspect I’ll end up with an M2 over a low spec Caymen without the right options. Got to sell the campervan first (give me a shout if anyone is interested!!).

    sharkbait
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    I was with him, it literally was that simple and that professional

    It really is what the buying/ownership experience should be. And as said, they don’t care what model you’ve got or what age!

    Compare that with a good friend who bought a new Ferrari and he said the experience was utter shit.

    Edit. Another friend is quite pally with our local Porsche dealership (already got one and was going to put his name down for a Taycan as an investment) and he was told that they’d already made a lot of Taycans and will get them on the road very quickly so that they’re not going to be much of an investment…. But should be bloody nice!

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    The Porsche Experience at Silverstone is a good day out and a neat safe way to explore the handling of some cracking cars. The skid pan is very good but the launch control testing was hilarious!

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    After few BMW’s, Audi’s and a Caterham…I too have joined the Porsche club with a 911.
    Absolutely love it and I’d highly recommend one.

    Since it’s a 997.1 I take it to the local Porsche specialist – no coffee or flash showroom…just reasonably priced servicing.

    Premier Icon grtdkad
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    Very keen on the idea of ‘recycling’ a new, old Jag on to my drive later this year.
    2013/14 Jaguar XK 5.0 V8 for about £20/£22k ideally Portfolio or Artisan editions to gain exquisite cross-stitched leather seat upgrade.

    Much, much more environmentally sound than getting that weird American bloke to make a brand new box-of-batteries just for me.

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    After reading the above, adds a Cayman to the list.

    Anyone use a cayman as an everyday car ? commuting etc ?

    spicer
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    I’ve got a gen 2 987 Cayman (the base model, 2.9).
    My commute is to London via a train so the car is mostly used on weekends with a bike on top!).

    I hear lots of people use them as a daily car. I do enjoy using the Polo my OH has for town driving though, it’s just easier. The cayman is completely drivable, but it’s still a sports car so don’t get the impression it’s quite as relaxing to drive around town in as a little hatchback.

    @wobbliscott, I too wanted one with lots of toys, but ended up with one with nearly no optional extras (I hear they call this ‘driver spec’ :’D ). I wouldn’t mind cruise control for the motorways. Sports chrono, PASM etc… never driven one with it but tbh I don’t wish I had it! Theres something nice about it ‘always being in the right mode’. It’s like when you have loads of bikes and spend ages deciding which one you should ride on that particular day- get one bike that does it all and you’re always in the right setup. No faffing, just get in it and enjoy.

    Got an exhaust bypass done for £250 (Hayward & Scott, essex), which makes it sound like the Porsche Sports Exhaust when you put your foot down but doesn’t give you any motorway drone.

    Saying all that, if I could have afforded one with lots of bells and whistles I would have of course got one, but for me it was a choice between the 2.7 with toys (which has some rare, but potentially huge engine issues) vs the 2.9 with no toys (which has a bombproof engine, looks better and should hold its value a little better).

    Love it, going to be a very sad day when I sell it!

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    Mate had the 2.7. It had all the rare and very expensive engine issues. Replaced it with a new boxster last year, which is a brilliant vehicle.

    CountZero
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    I’ve had a quick scan back through this thread, and I quite likely missed any mention, but just in case, here’s one of my candidates for what I’d buy if the money was no issue – the Aerial Atom V8.

    and its motor…

    500 bhp in a car weighing around 550 kg! Absolutely insane.
    I could happily spend an afternoon thrashing it around Castle Combe circuit, and then drive it home afterwards.
    For more normal use, I’d have one of these, the Alfa Stelvio Quadrifolgio…

      Yummy!

    Premier Icon hot_fiat
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    Is that engine 2 k20s glued together with good will and mastic?

    Stelvio QV is beautiful. Even Davide Cirone who HATES SUVs and even criticised the 500 abarth continuously for being too high and SUV-like thought it was great. It’s very, very expensive though.

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    So mine doesn’t need a bag of cash, but on the other hand, that means it’s actually happening…

    Take one JDM Subaru Legacy turbo wagon- perfectly sensible daily driver/bike hauler, 260bhp, cheap to tax, has LPG on it so cheap to run day to day.
    Purchase one UK spec Subaru Legacy Spec B
    Shoot UK spec car through head and steal its 6-speed, driveshafts, pedals and hydraulics. Oh and its nicer interior. Sorry UK car, it’s not you, it’s your ridiculous tax band.
    Add a sprinking of DCCD centre diff from an STI and Torsen front LSD that came with the UK car (because previous owner works for Prodrive)
    Stab all of this into JDM automatic. Garnish with bigger turbo out of a manual JDM. Possibly add R180 and proper LSD if the original viscous rear diff explodes.

    (hopefully sell autobox and remains of UK spec car for more than the entire project costs. Probably fail)

    Should be fun but the wiring’s going to be a pain in the arse and I’m not looking forward to refitting the carpet.

    Premier Icon jamesoz
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    Take one JDM Subaru Legacy turbo wagon.
    Purchase one UK spec Subaru Legacy Spec B
    Shoot UK spec car through head and steal its 6-speed, driveshafts, pedals and hydraulics. Oh and its nicer interior. Sorry UK car, it’s not you, it’s your tax band.

    Add a sprinking of DCCD centre diff from an STI and Torsen front LSD that came with the UK car (because previous owner works for Prodrive)
    Stab all of this into JDM automatic. Garnish with bigger turbo out of a manual JDM.

    Should be fun but the wiring’s going to be a pain in the arse and I’m not looking forward to refitting the carpet.

    That’s the ticket!
    I built my 951 from a box of bits, a 968 block, 951 Conrods, 2.7 head and DIY engine management. Makes it all the more fun.

    The carpet never went back properly after going from stained beige to black. The bits by the door always pull out from under the clips.

    chrisdb
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    Not sure if 31 counts as old enough for a mid life crisis but I’m getting there now. 5 years of summer time motoring bliss.

    elise

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    Can’t be arsed, will get back to it tomorrow. Brother bought a Jag, Clarkson, Clarkson etc.

    rkk01
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    Does a 3-year old Alfa count???

    Premier Icon bearnecessities
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    @Northwind ,any chance of starting a thread on that? Sounds ace 🙂

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    @bear, I’ll be documenting it as I go but it won’t be for a while yet- the donor car still has 4 months of MOT so I’ll probably use that up and then get into the actual work come spring.

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    Great, will look forward to that if you start a thread.

    Premier Icon davosaurusrex
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    Also looking forward to this!

    Premier Icon hot_fiat
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    @northwind that sounds superb.

    Good luck kludging the wiring – it’s often amusing, particularly with modern service manuals that have the most rudimentary wiring diagrams. My old uno manual had pages and pages of revision diagrams covering every possible production run. The cinquecento had one set of drawings that were mainly completely wrong. The t5/6 manual just omits wiring in its entirety.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Yeah, luckily there’s a lot of knowhow on subaru gearbox swaps, and randomly the ECU is the same for both auto and manual, just with a few higher brain functions lobotomized out with a jumper on the ECU for manual. Getting it going should basically be straightforward, getting it all to work right… I dunno, probably. There’s some cleverness involved with the speedo and ABS that’ll probably take a while to figure out. And then the DCCD sort of sits besides all of that with its own controller. As far as I know nobody’s ever done this with the 6 speed but it shouldn’t make that much difference.

    Course, it’s equally possible I’ll electrocute myself to death while trying to change the stereo.

    submarined
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    Ugh, engine swaps. Take one time estimate, multiply by 4. Take one cost estimate. Do the same. I remember the days of someone I vaguely know putting an RB30 into an s15. That didn’t go well.

    It’s always the little details that you never can quite get to work that take the shine off 🙁

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Engine is staying exactly where it is 🙂 It may get an engine swap in the future but if it does, it’ll be another EJ variant so a straightforward swap. But that’s not really the plan.

    TBH it ought to come up just a little short of 300bhp with this OE turbo swap and a little bit of breathing improvement… that’s both a nice number, and also hopefully doesn’t overstress anything too much and keeps the excellent street manners of the twinscroll. Not to mention being pretty straightforward to insure.

    renton
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    OP : How are you getting on with the Audi now you’ve had it for a bit ?

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    OP : How are you getting on with the Audi now you’ve had it for a bit ?

    Trade discount at blackcircles and shares in Shell??

    🤪

    OP : How are you getting on with the Audi now you’ve had it for a bit ?

    Absolutely love it renton.

    Perfect mix of luxury coupe and bonkers sports car.

    That V8 though ❤️🔥

    14mpg though, but I knew this 😭😂

    Greta would not be impressed 🙄🤪

    That’s the sort of crisis a Porsche on PCP really ain’t….

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    14mpg though, but I knew this

    Strewth! That is low. I’d get that from the QV if I was being really naughty. Last tank saw 26 which was mainly school runs and around town. A guy on the forum is commuting on the m1 with his: 36 overall!

    Strewth! That is low

    To be fair it’s still a novelty and driving it hard, you are keeping a 4.2 V8 in the 5k-8k rev range for the power band. I’m sure you could get it in the 20’s driven sensible

    Premier Icon hot_fiat
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    8k! Is it flat plane? 😳

    8k! Is it flat plane?

    8250 to be precise

    No idea, but it’s not the same engine as the old 4.2 B7 RS4 etc, nor a highly tuned version of the S5 V8. It’s 4/5 of the V10 that they put in the R8 and some Lambo’s. It may be the same as the original R8 V8, I’m not sure

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