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  • hora
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    There just seems to be speculation and no doctors or press conference? updates?

    Anything found anywhere?

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    Prognosis for anyone who’s been in an induced coma for this length of time is unlikely to be good in the short to medium term 🙁

    sharkbait
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    What wwwwwww said. Talking to a consultant friend last week and he said that SM will be pooped.

    Very sad even though I didn’t really like him that much (although I’m not sure I can say that about someone I haven’t ever met – prob a nice guy.)

    Last I read was on Friday night and they said that they were going to start to to reduce oxygen to his brain and slowly try to bring him out of the coma with the next 72hrs being critical. I’ve heard/seen zip since.

    globalti
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    They have probably had him on Rohypnol and cooled down by several degrees. They will reduce the drug and warm him up to see what happens.

    mrlebowski
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    I’ve never really been a fan of his but I really hope he comes out of this ok….

    hora
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    Ditto this is utterly horrible.

    theflatboy
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    Live by the sword die by the sword.

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    Live by the sword die by the sword.

    wtf?

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    wtf?

    +1

    Pretty sure it was a snowy rock* that did the damage. No swords involved.

    *(something you’d expect mountain bikers to be sympathetic to!)

    theflatboy
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    People who are less famous die in much worse ways every day…

    Pigface
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    Fingers crossed for his recovery and for his family.

    globalti
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    Rocks are dangerous, I got this friend into mountain biking: it’s thought he went over the bars, hit his noggin on a rock and tumbled down the hillside unconscious.

    http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2013/09/11/widow-pays-tribute-to-mountain-biker-john-graham-who-died-on-skiddaw

    hora
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    I think ^ means if you live on the edge?

    Not sure if he was taking a mad-mad risk though. It was inbetween two piste’s and was classed as a freak accident. No one said ‘whooo Schu was really nailing it down the mountain’.

    freeagent
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    Having sat and watched my 36 year old brother die a few months back, I have a good sense of perspective on this…
    He is a family guy, with two kids who need their Dad.
    I hope he pulls through.

    (Note – I never liked him as a driver either)

    Premier Icon Pook
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    But flatboy – there are people on here who care, are fans and are concerned for his welfare and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

    +1 to crossing my fingers for him

    theflatboy
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    That’s true, Pook, and I’m sympathetic to his family. But I would imagine that as a lifelong risk taker he would not have expected or wanted people’s sympathy for injuring himself / dying doing an inherently risky activity.

    I do accept that this thread might not be the place to air this view, though.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Not sure if he was taking a mad-mad risk though. It was inbetween two piste’s and was classed as a freak accident.

    Yep – not exactly extreme off-piste skiing:

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    I think maybe you need a different phrase, the live by the sword thing means;

    “You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want.”

    I thought you were saying he’d got his just desserts for actions during his driving career.

    But you’re right, it’s probably not the thread to pull his personality apart.

    I do accept that this thread might not be the place to air this view, though.

    Yet you did.

    /sigh

    globalti
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    Riding solo in the mountains, skiing a bit of powder between two pistes; we’ve all done those things.

    theflatboy
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    wwaswas – Member

    I think maybe you need a different phrase, the live by the sword thing means;

    “You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want.”

    Not as I understand it.

    theflatboy
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    deadlydarcy – Member

    I do accept that this thread might not be the place to air this view, though.

    Yet you did.

    /sigh

    Sorry, I meant “in hindsight…”.

    I’d be surprised if anyone has taken particular upset to my comment.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    You may want to revisit your understanding then theflatboy.

    wwaswas’s definition is a direct quote from McGraw-Hill’s Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_by_the_sword,_die_by_the_sword

    You are basically saying “he deserves it”, that is why people are upset!

    theflatboy
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    The page you’ve linked above points out that it can be used in a non-literal metaphorical sense.

    And I’m not saying he deserves it anymore than anybody deserves to die from the way they end up dying, just that he is inherently a risk taker.

    Edit: also, as already mentioned above, I’d be surprised if anyone is actually upset and I apologise if they are. As we’re posting definitions:

    Forum – a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

    Anyway, I’ve already said that this probably wasn’t the place to make this point so I’ll leave you to it.

    mushrooms
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    I can’t believe I just read the first reply you made flatboy, is there something seriously wrong with you?

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    The page you’ve linked above points out that it can be used in a non-literal metaphorical sense.

    I don’t think anyone thought you meant he literally had a sword.

    The meaning is still the same.

    Edit for your edit:

    I’m not saying he deserves it anymore than anybody deserves to die from the way they end up dying, just that he is inherently a risk taker.

    Then you just chose the wrong phrase. Fair enough.

    Yay – poor old hora asks a question and now we’re arguing* over dictionary definitions.

    *I am fully aware that I’m a bit involved and I’m hitting myself for that. 🙂

    Anyway, hope he pulls through, though according to everything I’ve read recently, it’s not looking great for him. One assumes his son may have seen it happen – can’t be very nice for the lad.

    clubber
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    This is about the best summary I read from someone who should be well qualified to comment. In short though, it doesn’t sound very good for MS…

    http://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/

    Ok let’s get down to the hard stuff here. What are the possible outcomes? I’ll look at some of them, mostly with an eye to defining terms we’re likely to see thrown about in the near future, so that we can be precise ourselves, and be critical when faced with imprecise, ambiguous, or misleading information from others (are you listening Daily Mail?).

    Now remember, all we know with certainty about Michael’s injuries comes from the press conferences given by his care team. After explaining the how and why of evacuating the right-side extradural hematoma (on the Sunday) and then the left-sided intracerebral hematoma (on the Monday), the neurosurgeon let slip a VERY telling statement.

    I’m almost quoting him here, translating from the French. He said “don’t think that we evacuated two hematomas and that’s it”. “Michael has lots of hematomas in his brain, on the left, on the right, and in the middle”.

    Damn. See, the “middle” is where all the important stuff happens – awareness, arousal, control of blood pressure, respiration, swallowing etc. And the left – well that’s usually language. Etc etc. The neurosurgeon, intentionally or not, painted a rather catastrophic neurologic picture.

    First off let me say that it is EXTREMELY unlikely (I’d honestly say virtually impossible) that the Michael we knew prior to this fall will ever be back.

    I think that it will have to be considered to be a triumph of human physical resiliency, and of modern neurointensive care, if Michael is able to walk, feed himself, dress himself, and if he retains significant elements of his previous personality. If recovery proceeds to this point (which is totally POSSIBLE, if perhaps rather improbable), it is an open question as to how well the “higher functions” (memory, concentration, reading, planning, etc) will recover. Please note, I would love to be proven wrong about this!

    sq225917
    Member

    Bummer. Perhaps stem cell therapy beckons.

    hora
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    That is depressing.

    Mantastic
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    For me more important things closer to home to worry about and invest time learning about. Hope the fanboys mange to struggle on if he doesn’t make it.

    **now ducks for cover**

    Premier Icon Pook
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    He’s got brain damage not mange.

    Jesus wept! I thought I’d seen p!enty of snide bitterness in the readers’comments on the Portsnouth News website, but this goes far beyond what even they can stoop to! Would some of the low comments apply to a mountain biker suffering a similar head injury? Thirteen years ago I might have been in a similar situation; fortunately my concussion wasn’t severe enough (just) to warrant my airlifting to the regional trauma centre, but it was a borderline call… I made a full recovery, but I could so easily have been in a far worse state.

    Just remember; there for the grace of god or fate go you..

    athgray
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    Thanks for posting clubber. Very saddening, and sends a shiver down my spine. I used to like watching him drive. Away from the racing car I always thought he came across as a pretty sound guyl. Best wishes go out to him.

    JulianA
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    There but for the grace of God: MrsJA had a bad off from a bike a few years ago and could have been in the same situation. I feel for his family as I have some idea of what they might be going through.

    Negative comments are for another thread in this case.

    beefheart
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    Whether you’re a fan of his or not, it is a freak accident which could happen to any cyclist/outdoor sports enthusiast.
    I would expect a little more solidarity/sympathy from a bunch of mountain bikers.

    My brother almost died last year from a head injury (being in a coma for 1 week), but thankfully looks like he will make a full recovery.

    Irrespective of your views on Schumacher’s career and the level of aggression shown on the track, what is undeniable is the talent the man had.

    I am first and foremost a Ferrari fan having been lucky enough to be in a position to go to most of the world’s circuits to stand side by side with the Tifosi. Yes, Mr S has a special place in the hearts and minds of anyone who admires the folks from Maranello, but more than this, it is the recognition that he was more than a driver – he was a test pilot of sorts.

    His views and engineering insight helped teams to better their cars. Even when he returned from retirement, despite not being at the top of his game, he made a difference at Mercedes helping to develop the car and the team on or off the track. His partnership with Ross Brawn is testament to what can be achieved.

    I don’t know if he’ll ever make a full recovery but I do hope he makes a sufficiently good recovery to have a decent quality of life. He may never walk again, let alone get behind the wheel of a hyper-car. I do hope both he and his family find the peace and privacy to come to terms with whatever happens next.

    Mantastic
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    There must be something wrong with me as I couldn’t give a flying **** what happens to him. I wish him no ill but life is life, rough with smooth etc. He will be last weeks news soon.

    You all hate me now.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Couldn’t really give a crap about any of that.

    He’s a husband, father and son who looks to have suffered an incredibly unfortunate accident, in circumstances that are spinechillingly familiar to most of us. 🙁

    (And it would be equally sad if he wasn’t famous – we’d just be a lot less likely to hear about it)

    piemonster
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    What GrahamS just said

    Indeed. The man himself probably isn’t aware of what’s happening to him, but it must be awful for his kids and other close family.

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