Mavic XC717 rims – how strong?
Stronger than you'd expect for a XC rim!Posted 8 years ago
I've just killed a 5 year old 717 that's had a very hard life. In that time its done 2 weeks every year doing lift assisted riding in the Alps, countless weekends here at various bike parks doing yet more lift assisted riding, tons of street riding, dirt jumping and the occasional XC ride! I only trashed it in a big off, although it has been looking a little tired the last few years.
You can ride whatever you like on them, but you do need to ride with a bit of finesse to make them last.
Very strong rims considering what they're intended for…DaffySubscriber
719s are a much better rim and only 60g heavier.
If it needs to be light, use a ZTR Olympic. They give a better tyre profile and are lighter than a 717 by 60g. Not as strong as a 719 either.
2.25 tyres look really pinched on a 717 so you're limited to 2.1s and below. This also means high tyre pressures to avoid pinch flats.
A wider rim = wider tyres without an odd shape = lower pressures = more comfort and grip = 😀 😈
SimplesPosted 8 years ago
well my current wheels are XM719 disc on the rear and an XM321 on the front which you're saying won't be that much different and will have a better tyre profile for the 2.3s I normally use. So to get any benefit I should go for something even lighter??Posted 8 years ago
Maybe I should go for lighter tyres first – currently using High Rollers (single ply 2.35 kevlar) which aren't that heavy – about 650g.SwalseyMember
I ride a wide variety of terrain in the UK, and if you are aggresive or adventurous (especially in the lakes/rocky areas) I'd go for a wider rim. I only weigh 11.5st and I've killed 4 seperate 717 rims (3 dented and buckled multiple times, one crash) – I blamed the first two on them being 2nd hand, but they dent easily and are not very strong IMO. Main problem is they are very narrow, so you have to use <2.1 tyres and even with 2.1S, the tyre sits rounded and I always got pinch flats at less than 50psi!Posted 8 years ago
this will effectively be a 'spare' wheelset for when I am just doing long XC rides where I will get the benefit from lighter wheelsPosted 8 years ago
I think my tyres are actually more like 850g so I think I'll change these first to something 500-600g and see if that makes a differencechrisrhayesSubscriber
717 disc on rear, 717 rim brake on front
Panaracer Rampage 2.35 on both
I'm 95kg and I find them fine. I rely on the snake bite chamfer the Panaracers have, and you do get squirming at low PSIs but overall they are ok for me.
My rear has a flat side after a heavy landing at Afan. So they do dent easy, but that's about it.Posted 8 years agojimmer himselfMember
I'd not want to run a tyre larger than a 2.3" on a Mavic 717, but I've used them and their earlier incarnation the 217 almost exclusively for the past 15 years.
They take tons of abuse and when made into a wheel by a good builder are bulletproof. Be careful when comparing Mavic rims though because only the top end rims are made using their Maxtal alloy, which seems to provide a good mix of low weight and good strength.
I've been using 719's on my other bike for the past eighteen months which I use for DH and general monkey business and they're a nice width for anything up to a 2.5" tyre. But a DT 5.1. is a little lighter , a little wider and just as strong.
That said I had a double pinch flat while riding through a boulder field and put a huge dent into the tyre hook section of one of the 719's. But the rim was still round and I straightened the ding with a pair of pliers and the rim has been fine ever since.Posted 8 years ago
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