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  • Premier Icon ash
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    Question as per the title really.

    Looking at possibly getting some new forks for my All-MountainFreecoreLite(TM) rig, and was thinking of 55’s as there’s some ok deals on.

    However, there’s obviously been a LOT of horror stories about poor reliability as the result of production problems.

    What issues have people been having. Have these been resolved? Has anyone had a 100% good experience?

    Was looking in particular at the 2008 55ETA

    Would really appreciate some FIRST HAND input.

    Cheers in advance!

    Premier Icon a11y
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    Great fork, when it works.

    My 55 ATA2s live on my second bike (a Giant Reign). After using them on approx 20 rides, mostly trail centres for fun sessions, the TST cartridge broke.

    They were fixed quickly under warranty by Windwave who fitted a revised TST cartridge and a replacement ATA2 cartridge, according to the note they arrived back with. They’re now working as good as before.

    I’m happy with mine but not sure I’d recommend them for the reliability issues which I’m sure you’ve read about, but they really do work very well and are a great cheaper alternative to RS Lyriks, Fox 36s etc.

    HTH.
    ally

    scruff
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    Bloke in Welsh LBS had some for sale but told me not to buy them due to some **** internal grub screw coming loose so forks lose the travel.

    Kuco
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    I always defended them until mine went yesterday 🙁

    solamanda
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    Ash, I’ve been running some 2006 66SL’s (non-ata) and they’re bloody good/light. Much lighter than the ATA model you have (about 6lbs). There was someone selling a set on the classifieds. If you can cope without ATA they’d be ideal for you. You can set the travel anywhere between 100-170 travel using an air pump.

    glenp
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    In the new Windwave catalogue they stress that Marz have tightened-up their quality control for 2009 – of course it is easy to say that. Could mean that the 2009 forks are the way to go.

    james
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    Though I’ve not used either, I thought (from the numerous bits and bobs that pop up on here) that it was the ATA/TST models that had the problems, and the ETA versions were alright. Could be wrong though

    freeridenick
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    I have bught the ETA version, (although not used them yet!) from what I have read the ETA are OK, its the ATA with the problem. I am hoping anyway!!

    Premier Icon ash
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    Solomanda, if you’re talking ETA, then yeah I do need it really for the intended purpose… need to be able to switch travel quickly for “up long climb, down long descent” type stuff

    Have got a set of 07 Lyriks U-Turn (coil) already but there’s something the matter with THEM now, again 🙁

    Premier Icon ash
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    Scruff – do you happen to know if they were the ETA’s ??

    higgo
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    I have 2008 55ATA2s.

    First time they went back was they weren’t getting full travel – even without air in them I couldn’t get the last three inches, they just stopped dead. Also the travel crept down. All internals replaced (with 2008 bits). The chap in my LBS told me that his had also been back, as had every set of 55s (regardless of ETA, ATA, ATA2) the shop had sold.

    Second time they went back it was because they’d collapsed to show only about an inch of stanchion. All internals replaced with 2009 bits. They’ve been fine since. Hopefully they’ll stay that way. When they work they’re excellent forks.

    If you do buy some I would strongly recommend getting them through a LBS. I’ve had other forks (RockShox mainly) from web-sellers but I’m really glad I got these from a real shop who can sort things out for me

    Premier Icon ash
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    bloody hell, thanks for that higgo

    james
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    “I’ve had other forks (RockShox mainly) from web-sellers but I’m really glad I got these from a real shop who can sort things out for me “

    Web sellers can sort them out too, and because the sale falls under distance selling laws, they should pay the postage both ways as well, whereas you have to keep going into the shop. Though if you’ve got a decent LBS, its seems less hassle to take them in rather than having to box up and post them off and whatnot

    scruff
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    Ash ATA I think, they where white. Or black.

    JonEdwards
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    Given what you do for a living and where – I would have thought that a fork that can be completely user serviceable with no sealed cartidges inside would be the way to go. That implies either RC/RC2/RC3 coil Marzocchis or Rock Shox (not sure what happened with your Lyrics?).

    That all said, if you’ve got Solamanda working for you next year, and you want to give him something to do of an evening rather than annoying the punters over dinner :wink:, then you could always get a couple of pairs of 55s so you have one working set whilst he’s fixing the others…

    Premier Icon rockitman
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    55ATA2’s are currently back with windwave for the second time. Bought them last May. I have now solved the problem – I bought some Lyriks, will use the Marzocchi’s on my second bike. Really regret buying them now. Same horror stories as above really. They just seize…

    Premier Icon a11y
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    Mine’s the same story as Higgo really – I’ve been told it’s 2009 internals in mine now. Fingers crossed that’ll be more reliable. 3 year warranty thank god…

    Premier Icon rockitman
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    At what point (if any) do you think you can claim they aren’t “fit for purpose” and ask for your money back? If they break 3 times in a year?

    MrNutt
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    I run 66’s SL1 ATA’s, they’ve been fixed by windwave and have not let me down, they’re superb, I can’t fault em!

    TandemJeremy
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    rockitman – Member

    At what point (if any) do you think you can claim they aren’t “fit for purpose” and ask for your money back? If they break 3 times in a year?

    first time they break you can have your money back under sale of goods act assuming manufacturing fault. This 3 times in a year stuff is a myth invented by retailers, ( there may be some case law behind it but I can find no refereance to any} google “sale of goods act”

    timber
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    Can’t give any personal experience, but the rider most missing from our group rides is the one with 55’s, either because they’re being sent to windwave, with windwave, on way back from windwave or just gone tits up again – he now has RS and we see him more often

    Pauly
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    Coincidence that Marzocchi production is now in China rather than Italy? I think not.
    Word has it that they’re dropping all the TST, ATA guff and concentrating on making good forks again for 2010.
    I would consider Fox before I’d buy Marzocchi just now. That’s saying something.

    Rockshox all the way.

    solamanda
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    That all said, if you’ve got Solamanda working for you next year, and you want to give him something to do of an evening rather than annoying the punters over dinner :wink:, then you could always get a couple of pairs of 55s so you have one working set whilst he’s fixing the others…

    Hehe. Unfortunately I won’t be out there for the season. I don’t think we shouldn’t mention my fork servicing to Ash, (I still blame the lack of a spanner!).

    I think another set of Lyriks would do you well, but this time give them a service more than once a million feet of descending ;o)

    It’s a shame marzocchi don’t produce a suitable reliable fork. The bushes and seals on my 888s have just died, after 3 years use including 15 weeks in the alps! When they get it right, they get it very right.

    Premier Icon ash
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    that’s right, it is such a darn shame about the 55s….

    I’ve had nothing but good experience with the many AM and 66 forks I’ve used until now

    Thanks for the input everyone… no 55s for me

    hora
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    Well after previous Mazz fork failures-Ive gone for a set of used (broken) 55’s. Straight off to Windwave to get the TST2 replaced…although no shop backup I’ll soon see within the 3month(?) guarantee period whether the 09 cartridge works or breaks..

    freeridenick
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    55 ETAs – fine so far after 3 days of welsh riding, ie. all weathers….

    Only just realized that the air chamber is accessed when you pop the ETAtop cap off! rode just on the spring for 3 days!

    jamesca
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    has anyone had 09 55’s go wrong?

    turnip
    Member

    5-6 of mine broke within a few rides. Just about to send off another set.

    Demo fleet spends most of its time broken!

    higgo
    Member

    I’m not sure I should tempt fate by saying this but….

    Mine with the new ’09 gubbins have been working fine for a good while now. They’ve done much more riding than I got out of the last two sets (well same fork, different internals).

    If they stay this way I’ll be happy. It’s a great fork when it’s working.

    Premier Icon jimmy
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    do 09’s still have ETA? They’re the fork I want to get but have questioned the reliability, too.

    hora
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    Am I doing something wrong here? Just received the 55’s back with replaced TST cartridge and (forks not on bike) I thought I’d check the lockout lever (it doesnt work).

    Am I missing something?

    higgo
    Member

    hora said… Am I missing something?

    the bike?
    the instructions?
    the point?

    Are you a human dynamometer (in addition to your other talents)?
    Fit fork to bike, see how fork feels on bike.

    freeridenick
    Member

    jimmy. looking at the 09 line up there is no longer an ETA version.

    freeridenick
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    well my 55 etas broke in the alps on the first day, so I had to ride all week with about 30mm of travel! Currently in the post to windwave…..will update when i know more.

    freeridenick
    Member

    Forks back from Windwave with a note saying a new "TST evo cartridge" anyone know if this would be a revised 09 ?? it says it is a 165mm cartridge whcih is strange as the forks were originally 160mm, i am presuming its the 09 because of this??

    anyway, excellent turnaround by windwave – time will tell as over the next few months i will put them through their paces in the lakes and spain.

    leggyblonde
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    I'm thinking of some 09 55Rs as they look pretty cheap and I'm not fussed about that much adjustability. Is it just the posh ones that break?

    RHSno2
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    Mine worked for about a year. Went back, got 09 cartridge in and have been working well. I don't get FULL travel but I definately get 95%.

    Working a treat though. Some of the best forks I've used. Infact. The best I have used.

    RHSno2
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    Mine worked for about a year. Went back, got 09 cartridge in and have been working well. I don't get FULL travel but I definately get 95%.

    Working a treat though. Some of the best forks I've used. Infact. The best I have used.

    Munqe-chick
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    leggyblonde- the 55R's look like a good bet, they were introduced as a ghetto version of the 55, but if you read the blurb Marz are marketing it as simple, minimal adjustment, low maintenance as they dont have any of the TLA's that seem to be failing. Should be reminiscent of old Marz ie. fit, set up, forget.

    I'm kicking myself for not snapping up a pair of new 140mm 55R's that mud dock were selling on ebay for £225, another shop is asking £199 for a used set now….

    higgo
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    Working a treat though. Some of the best forks I've used. Infact. The best I have used.

    It's a shame innit – these will go down in history as 'one of the most unreliable forks of all time' when they could have been 'one of the best performing forks of all time'

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